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Yeah, Those Statins. Wonder Drug For The Rockefeller 'Keep 'Em Sick And On Chronic Medications' Profit Industry


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2023 Nov 12, 11:16am   1,135 views  32 comments

by Ceffer   ➕follow (7)   ignore (17)  

Captured research and reporting entities as usual. Pay enough money, you could probably get kerosene listed as a healing agent.

"A Cochrane systemic review by Taylor et al found evidence of selective reporting of outcomes and failure to report adverse events.

In reality, high cholesterol levels have been shown to be protective in the elderly and heart failure patients. Low cholesterol patients had a higher incidence of intra-cerebral bleeds, depression, and cancer.

Statins have done nothing to slow the trend of rising heart disease but have increased the risk of many health problems linked to their use including diabetes, dementia, cancer, cataracts, musculoskeletal disorders (myalgia, muscle weakness, muscle cramps, rhabdomyolysis and autoimmune muscle disease), depression, erectile dysfunction, plus an increased risk of several infectious diseases.

All of these effects are dose dependant, persist during treatment and sometimes even after treatment has stopped."

https://expose-news.com/2023/11/10/statins-are-not-wonder-drugs-they-are-metabolic-poisons-that-kill-one-cell-at-a-time/

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1   Patrick   2023 Nov 12, 7:59pm  

"Yes, they killed millions for money, but in their defense, let me say, it was a LOT of money."

(Adaptation of an old joke about a guy who murdered an old widow for her money.)
2   Ceffer   2023 Nov 12, 11:05pm  

Obviously, David Rockefeller Jr. programmed the Kaiser AI that the doctors obey without question.
3   Patrick   2024 Jul 29, 8:09pm  

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-great-blood-pressure-scam


Then, as I became more acquainted with the medical field, I began to notice a consistent pattern—whenever a drug existed that could treat a number or statistic, as the years went by, the acceptable number kept on being narrowed, making more and more people eligible to take the drugs that treated the number.

For example, as I discussed recently, once the statins drugs entered the market (which unlike their predecessors, could effectively lower cholesterol), the acceptable blood cholesterol levels kept on being lowered, and before long almost everyone was told they would die from a heart attack unless they started a statin—despite statins have an almost non-existing mortality benefit (e.g., taking them for 5 years at best makes you live 3-4 days longer) and causing (often severe) side effects for roughly 20% of users. Broadly recommending these drugs hence appears unconscionable, but as I showed in that article, these unjustifiable guidelines were a product of clever pharmaceutical marketing and targeted bribery of public officials.
4   Ceffer   2024 Aug 2, 10:56pm  

Patrick says

Then, as I became more acquainted with the medical field, I began to notice a consistent pattern—whenever a drug existed that could treat a number or statistic, as the years went by, the acceptable number kept on being narrowed, making more and more people eligible to take the drugs that treated the number.

So, obviously the Rockefeller enslaved allopaths realized that they could CAUSE disease by interrupting the enzymatic pathways that generated cholesterol. But first, they had to PATHOLOGIZE cholesterol (nice Satanic inversion, make the cure the disease and the disease the cure) with the cooperation of the their captive medical schools and so called peer review journals, and also profit from it through Big Pharma.
5   clambo   2024 Aug 3, 5:07am  

Herewith my experience with statins.
After being gouged by Obamacare for $8000 in 2018, I decided to get a checkup, since I had paid for it.
My doctor was a guy from the Philippines, not a jerk but had no bedside manner, and was nerdy.
After a blood test, the results showed my LDL was at the high end of the "good range".
"You hit the number, so I will prescribe Atorovastatin (10mg)".

A subsequent blood test showed dramatic "improvement"; however I also had been watching my intake of stuff like ice cream, and doing more exercise.
I thought I was experiencing a side effect of fatigue; the doctor said this isn't a reported side effect.
Actually, it's probably because I was exercising more, or who knows?
I no longer experience any tiredness except after a day out on the dive boat.

Subsequent blood tests evidently show I'm OK, but what I really worry about is cancer of the prostate and colon.
For comparison, when I'm in Baja Sur Mexico I see very few old people (natives) around; they're mostly dead or don't go out much.

Someday I will stop taking my Atorvastatin for a few months and see how my blood tests come out.
I just hate having my blood taken; I must remember to drink a bunch of water before I go. Being dehydrated isn't good for them finding my veins.
6   Tenpoundbass   2024 Aug 3, 7:24am  

I think all pharmaceutical drugs, while they might treat the ailment they are prescribed for. They do damage to your body and other organs. Creating a never ending turnstile of needing a prescription for ailments caused by previous treatments. I have noticed all of my life, that once an older person goes to the doctor for a medical issue. The following decade, they are treated for more and more issues that had nothing to do with their original medical issue.

Just look at what pain meds does to healthy fit people, when they get a back injury. They end up the most out of shape and sickly out of anyone you'll ever meet. So much so to the point, after several years you have a hard time believing that the person was once fit. I used to argue this during the Obamacare debates, with the Libs of Patnet. They blamed everyone fat with chronic health issues on fat diabetics and lifestyles. But would never address the just as many medical patients that had their health robbed from them with pain management meds.
7   stereotomy   2024 Aug 3, 11:47am  

Statins are bullshit - long term a big net negative for quality of human life, a big $$$$$ benefit to Pharma. Cut gluten, cut sugar, eat red meat and tubers - ultra high nutrient foods in smaller quantities. Exercise the prostate by getting your nut off - just like hands, an idle prostate does the devil's work.

Does anyone on PatNet still believe what Big Pharma, The FDA, the CDC, et al, have been telling you? If they're wrong on the clot shot - how many other things have they been wrong on?

Butter - bad, but Margarine good
Eggs bad, but Soy good
Sunlight bad, and sunscreen good
Saturated fat bad, but seed oils good
Saturated fat bad, but grain-based carbs good
Whole milk (especially raw milk) bad, but skim milk good
Saturated fats bad, but trans-fats good

and on and on . . .
8   Ceffer   2024 Aug 3, 12:10pm  

I can tell from Kaiser internist following the sacred Rockefeller AI screen that they are promoting statins for hang nails, mandates for everyone for everything 'to prevent heart attack' (fear totem). He wanted me to participate in a 'blood pressure' clinic. Now, is that stupid for somebody with on the record normal blood pressure? Obviously a ploy to get everybody on blood pressure medicine, too.

Then, the MSM Mockingbird and entertainment media promote that there is a huge incidence of Alzheimer's in the over 60 population, with beleaguered relatives being forced to care for the old chaffs. How boring when you could be tatting and nightclubbing on the old drizzle's accumulated fortune.

The statin thing is probably also designed to reduce mental resilience in the older segment of the population with the greatest accumulated wisdom so that the daft yutes continue to rely on daft peers and daft, strobing media addictions.

Discredit all sources of experienced observation for the forebrain-less.

"There we go. Eat your nice oatmeal with the flouride and statin chaser, with vaxicide trimmings. We'll make sure the blood pressure meds selectively inhibit cerebral blood flow, too!"

Gives new meaning to the term 'brain drain'.
9   Ceffer   2024 Aug 3, 12:15pm  

I was watching parts of Mel Gibson's movie 'Conspiracy Theory'. Oddly, the 'crazy' character pre 9/11 (1997) predicts stuff that is valid. Patrick Stewart is the official Paperclip Mengele type character.

That Gibson character coined 'schizoaffective conspiracy theorist' as the ultimate bar code for the gulag bound to discredit them in the disinformation wars. The character was crazy, likely from hidden Monarch type MKUltra abuse that he can only vaguely remember, but the abuse induces various hypnotic suggestion compulsive behaviors, like buying every copy of 'Catcher In The Rye' that he comes across.
10   rocketjoe79   2024 Aug 3, 8:26pm  

My VA doc wanted me on statins, using sketchy statistics to convince me. Nope.

Remember Mom and Castor oil?? I take 4g of Fish Oil a day, it keeps my Lipids about half what they were before I started.
11   Patrick   2024 Dec 19, 10:11am  

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-great-statin-scam


•The primary approach to treating heart disease is to prescribe costly cholesterol-lowering statins (to the point over a trillion dollars have now been spent on them). Unfortunately, these highly toxic drugs have minuscule benefits (e.g., at best taking them for years extends your life by a few days).

•Statins are also one of the most frequent causes of pharmaceutical injuries (e.g., they are notorious for causing muscle, nerve, or liver damage and significant cognitive impairment). This is because statins work by blocking the body’s production of various essential nutrients.

•Many of these failures can be explained by the fact there is very little evidence cholesterol actually causes heart disease. Rather, heart disease results from (cholesterol containing) atherosclerotic blood clots accumulating at the sites of past injuries to the blood vessels.

•In this article, we will review the dangers of statins, the actual causes of heart disease, and how this knowledge can be integrated to develop a healthy approach to cardiovascular health.
12   WookieMan   2024 Dec 19, 10:42am  

Patrick says

(e.g., they are notorious for causing muscle, nerve, or liver damage and significant cognitive impairment).

That's why the only poison I take is alcohol. I had bad acne as a kid, still a hunk, but tangents aside I have surgery for cystic acne in high school. Hell I still have it now as a full grown ass adult. They wanted me to take Accutane. My dad researched it and the alarm bells went off when they wanted blood tests MONTHLY. He gets a +1 for that when it's usually a minus. Never took any of that shit.

That shit would have destroyed my liver. And yes, I was hygienic and clean. Washed face morning and night. It was embarrassing. I did everything outside of meds. Just live(ed) with it. Beside my dad's influence it's why I may come across as an ass hole, had to constantly fuck with people because they made fun of the acne. Then the gall bladder and my trust in the medical field is toast.

Back to my younger years, I still know most the people I went to high school with. Most of them are losers. The funny part is my wife was considered a loser and I was the jock and dude in a rock band, so I had no issue outside my own mental health with the acne. Covid prevented the 20 year reunion. I can't wait till 25 or 30 year reunion.

I generally know what everyone makes via social media. Fluff photos to make life look great but you're a loser and I know it.

Anyone with young boys as sons.... sad I have to say that. Number one lesson. Find a woman that can make YOU money. I'm convinced at least with boys men are better at raising them. My job was to find that woman and help make her successful from a kind of shitty upbringing.

Only thing I failed on was the vaccine for her. I've kept it out of my kids fortunately. She doesn't take any meds or OTC drugs. Nephew has severe respiratory allergies, so he takes a pill daily for that. Otherwise we're a drug free house. I'm younger than most here I believe. I act like a retard. Wednesday night ping pong weekly. I dove 2-3 times last night. I can barely walk stairs today. No pills. Just deal with it. If I took pain killers I'd be even more aggressive and not able to walk by 50. (We play doubles, so lots of movement having to coordinate with the other guy). Either way, pain sucks, but not masking it with drugs.
13   PanicanDemoralizer   2024 Dec 19, 10:45am  

WookieMan says


That shit would have destroyed my liver.

Not liver for me; but intestines. It dries Everything out, inside and out. All the food eaten by a pubescent teen was going down an unlubricated tube. I pay for it with IBS today.
14   Patrick   2024 Dec 19, 11:38am  

WookieMan says

They wanted me to take Accutane.


I took that myself in high school for bad acne.

Strangely, the summer I was on a foreign exchange program in Germany, my acne went away completely. Then when I came back to the US, the acne came back. Pretty sure it's the food.

In the opposite direction, there was a poor girl who came from Germany to our high school and got horrible acne, starting from none.

I've read that even trace amounts of dioxin in the food supply, from leaky electrical transformers, cause severe acne. So that's one possible reason, along with the very low food quality in the US compared to Germany.
15   Ceffer   2025 Mar 7, 12:40am  

They have succeeded at least in making the Dems lose their minds.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=252195

16   Ceffer   2025 Mar 31, 2:36pm  

These are the intimidation and scare tactics Kaiser continues to send me to browbeat me into the 'gateway toxins' of statin drugs. All of my lipid tests are low normal, not a single one out of bounds. My blood pressure measured at home is always within 'normal' range. Of course, they still plug the toxxines as well. Rockefeller allopathic capture at its best, aided and abetted by the Kaiser AIs that boss the doctors.

So, I have to wonder, if they use these tactics to promote the gateway medicines, do they have their fingers on the scales of their tests, too, to steer the promotional narratives?

There is never any mention of the serious risks and side effects of statins, which are well documented, including making type 2 diabetes worse.

17   stereotomy   2025 Mar 31, 3:04pm  

@Ceffer - look up "The Forgotten Side of Medicine" on Substack. A meta-analysis of statin effectiveness on longevity was an increase of about 4 days over decades of use.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-great-dangers-of-statins

At my last conventional doctor checkup, he pushed so-and-so vaccines on me, which I refused. Then he tried to terrorize me by talking about people who lost their hands and feet because they didn't get a particular vaccine.

I then said to him, "If it's my time, I'm content to die."

Then he switched to imploring/begging me to take the vaccine like a true dark triad psychopath would.

I'm not going back - fuck psychos.
18   Ceffer   2025 Mar 31, 3:57pm  

Yes, there is relentless pressure on the doctors from their hierarchies to promote these horrors. I am not sure if it is just monetary gain (which is a powerful motivator to fuck their patients as well) but sinister threats that their institutional and professional status will be downgraded if they don't force feed the toxxines and toxic meds.

The solicitations and scares that my doctor sends are computer screeds from the master profits contoller AI distributed under his name that he clearly does not write himself. I don't confront him, but I do study him and it makes him nervous. He admitted he HAD to talk up statins and that they wanted me in a 'study' because I actually had low risk factors and so he flogged the statins. They wanted me as a lab rat under false pretenses. I have no idea if he gets some kind of kickback from it, but I wouldn't be surprised. The system also practices ritualized contempt of the doctors as well. It's why they want them replaced completely with AI.
19   WookieMan   2025 Mar 31, 4:38pm  

stereotomy says

I then said to him, "If it's my time, I'm content to die."

That's where I'm at. I'd have to be in real bad shape to take something a doctor offers or get a procedure. Pretty sure my MCL is torn currently. Fractured my heel and it was painful and the doc just pushed pain meds on me. I told him to get fucked. He still put the prescription through.

Ultimately we are the customers at the end of the day. Docs feel like they have authority over you. Nope, they go on trips and conferences with sales reps and live a lavish lifestyle. That's modern medicine. Fuck 'em.
20   Ceffer   2025 Mar 31, 4:50pm  

Not surprisingly, doctors are regarded politically as a paramilitary rank and file, not servants of the patients. They are required by their rank and file to obey from above. Doctors literally have a British military rank, which is why all the public health types have military uniforms and ranks as well. Even the Hippocratic oath with the demonology of the snakes (caduceus, two snakes twined around the penis of Baphomet with the wings of Mercury) is kind of wonky when you read it. Also, medicine and pharmacy have been regarded traditionally as consisting of the polarities of poisons as well as balms and cures, a branch of alchemy with its own occultism.

The training of medical specialists is a relatively cruel medieval ritual of knighthood with pages, squires and various levels of journeymen. Doctors aren't shy about eating their own, either.

Apparently, doctors are in the embrace of promoting alchemical poisoning by orders from above in the current times. The dark forces command them.
21   rocketjoe79   2025 Mar 31, 4:51pm  

My VA docI doesn't like me because I refused statins. He's got a playbook and dispensed the mantra, I said naw. I ran the numbers, the upside wasn't worth it, IMHO.
22   stereotomy   2025 Mar 31, 5:31pm  

100% grass fed beef, good dairy, good vegetables if you can get them (it's pretty hard most times of the year to get them north of Mason-Dixon). In lieu of the dairy and veggies, opt for quality fermented versions - cheeses, yogurt, kimchee, pickled stuff like red cabbage and sauerkraut, etc.

Heart disease (at least before the clot shot caused an epidemic of vasculitis, cardiomyopathy, POTS, and worse) is caused by inflammation. Cholesterol is a necessary fat which is used by many organs of the body, especially the brain - that's why there's so much cholesterol floating around in your blood. Where things get bad is when there is inflammation. Then the cholesterol forms plaques along the arteries. Eliminate inflammation and eliminate plaques.

Sugars, junk food, toxic seed oils, highly processed grains - these are the four horsemen of the inflammation apocalypse. Instead of sugars, whole fruits. Instead of junk food snacks, whole meals only comprised of nutritionally dense foodstuffs like red meat, tubers, plants with tocopherols and lycopene. No seed oils other than what can be pressed from the fruit of the seed; i.e. olive, coconut, avocado. Forsake grains for less toxic alternatives such as masa tortillas, low gluten breads made with non-toxic oils or lards, and cooking and frying with lard and tallow instead of seed oils.
25   WookieMan   2025 May 29, 11:03am  

Patrick says





Who would have thought "say no to drugs" really meant something different. I'm no health nut, but I feel in good shape for not working out. I will walk occasionally. I do feel pain sometimes, but I just let it go.

I don't take anything OTC besides vitamins. No pain killers. 2 ER visits and one gall bladder. I would not have figured it out without ER docs. Cardiologist are basically on the payroll or get the perks of selling big Pharma drugs.

Too many people just go straight to the doc when they feel uncomfortable. Suck it up buttercup. Use the doc when it's really needed. Otherwise they just throw pills at you.
26   redbull134   2025 Jun 5, 7:05am  

Patrick says





Since some statins are known to cross the blood/brain barrier they can reduce the amount of cholesterol in the brain thereby negatively effecting the ability of the brain to maintain healthy cholesterol levels in its tissues.
27   mell   2025 Jun 5, 7:53am  

There is a drug that reduces ldl bit more importantly reduces hscrp and heart inflammation. The only substance out there which actually helps. It is also being researched for liver protection, metabolic and anti cancer benefits. It's called bempedoic acid and the brand name os Nexleton or Nexlizet for a combo with ezitimibe. Highly superior. The company selling it os Esperion amd.big pharma suppressed it for a years very successfully, but the damage is breaking and if you want to support it or a piece of the stock pie, the ticker is ESPR. Trying to switch all of friends and family who are on lipid medication over from statins to bempedoic acid. Hands down the only drug I'd ever take for lipid management though I have never taken any prescription drugs so far.
28   Ceffer   2025 Jun 5, 11:27am  

The process of putting the fingers on the scales of 'testing' seems pretty well established. With all the other rampant corruptions in medicine for profit, I sometimes wonder that characterizing 'future disease' and 'medication' on the basis of testing isn't equally corrupt.

Even otherwise smart people can become OC disorder about 'controlling' test results without ever considering what the 'testing' is to begin with. The Covid 'test' which is completely bogus is a recent case in point.

People are genetically so variant that no one stock in trade 'test' can really be deemed to be universal. The 'universal' part of them is the promotion of the for profit stock in trade Rockefeller allopathic Pharma (cause the problems with metabolic intoxications, then sell band aids).
29   The_Deplorable   2025 Jun 26, 2:42pm  

@Ceffer

A suggestion: Rename this thread to simply "Statins" or "Statins Are Poisonous" or Statins Are Dangerous." - it will be easier to remember.

My $0.02
31   Ceffer   2025 Jun 26, 2:59pm  

The brain oddly enough also runs on localized estrogen production, even in men. Estrogen is produced from cholesterol.
32   Ceffer   2025 Jul 7, 2:01am  

They really want to get those statins into you. The reasons aren't health, obviously.

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