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It wasn't a hoax to begin with, but if you give your enemy your harbor to do what they will, you will find it mined and polluted where you think they have vacated.

Trump's DOJ could have handled it better, unless the overt deceptive front was just another grenade in the henhouse to get the Deep State minions fluttering and squawking. Also, they have not abandoned the Epstein saga, they have just put it on the down low to separate the wheat from the SES/CIA poisoned chaff. That could take forever, and there are more important things to do at the moment than skewer a handful of elite Satanic pawns (each of whom probably have thousands of sold soul applicants eager to take their places) for public delight, revenge and shadenfreude.

PanicanDemoralizer says

Kevin Spacey
Release the Epstein files. All of them. For those of us with nothing to fear, the truth can’t come soon enough.

I hate to make this about me — but the media already has.

https://x.com/KevinSpacey/status/1945091027674513692

VERSUS



Or is this all Trump Kayfabe, getting everybody to DEMAND he just dump everything?

Or is the Schizo n' Clickbait machine going into overdrive, ready to blow up from the pressure?

Why does he need anybody to demand the release? He ran on the issue, he won the election. Time to deliver.

Cheap whores joining in:



How much did this one get? Twenty bucks?

How about this one:



$20? $10?

Ceffer says

Fuck the Epstein crap. Election reform is by far the most important thing Trump can do, to assure that the Soros Fecal Impactions and KommieKunt Klowns are flushed out of the Federal system organically by unfaked and uncapatured elections.

You know we have reached a new level of TDS when Trump voters turn on Trump based on Qannon bullshit conspiracy theories and the voice of reason comes from Ceffer, the presidentlord of the Lone Gunmen Fraternal Order of Conspiracies.

PeopleUnited says

RayPanican says

Another very weird, convoluted statement. Doesn’t even make any sense.

That’s because you suffer from Type P TDS.

The only known cure is a full reboot of your system in order to remove the corrupt Globalist BS files.

In other words, You’d have to repent of your Joo hatred to understand it.

Another very weird post. First, I don’t have ‘TDS’ as you falsely claim. I voted for Trump all three elections and continue to support him while I reserve the right to criticize his individual policies. To do otherwise would be a compromise of principles on my part. Second at no time in my entire life have I ever expressed hatred for the Jewish people … as in NEVER … including on this blog site. I challenge you to provide proof that would clearly illustrate that I ever did. Otherwise, you will be shown to be a reckless, lying slanderer.

PanicanDemoralizer says

Anything less than this won't satisfy the Panicans. Even if it doesn't exist (anymore).


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Prosecutions might help. Just an idea.

PeopleUnited says

Trump voters turn on Trump based on Qannon bullshit conspiracy theories

Except the guy ran on that bullshit as one of the core issues. And they all - Donnie, DJ Eyeliner, Blondi, Bongina, Patel - were talking and acting as if they had 100% knowledge that the shit was real and Demon rats were covering it up.

Patrick says

Now those same people are trying to pin the tail on the Trump donkey while
hoping to wash away the whole thing leaving only Trump to be sacrificed."

Where does this "only" come from? If they are all in the files, why would Trump be the only one to be sacrificed? Especially if he didn't diddle any minors on tape. Makes no sense.

RayPalestine says

I challenge you to provide proof

The proof is in the pudding, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. If you don’t hate Israel, you have a strange way of loving them. Calling them out for false accusations of genocide, child rape trafficking, did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, they betrayed America several times right?

Eric Holder says

PeopleUnited says

Trump voters turn on Trump based on Qannon bullshit conspiracy theories

Except the guy ran on that bullshit as one of the core issues. And they all - Donnie, DJ Eyeliner, Blondi, Bongina, Patel - were talking and acting as if they had 100% knowledge that the shit was real and Demon rats were covering it up.

Epstein a core issue? wow. I don’t like the way they mislead and misrepresented (I’m talking Blondi here) like they had files to reveal. But I also didn’t like Trumps worthless lawyers in 2020 who kept promising proof of fraud but Never delivered.

I’m certain there was fraud in 2020, and there is way more evidence of election fraud and interference from the media in in 2020 than of some pervert honeypot scheme. But the longer we talk about Epstein the less time we have to expose the election fraud, the Covid frauds, and the globalist digital gulag they are building.

Epstein was a disgusting pervert, and Very rich disgusting perverts gave him a lot of money to provide a service to the globalists. But he is dead now. I’d like to hear Ghislaine’s testimony, and Congress should absolutely subpoena her to expose her story, but more than that I’d like to talk about how to make America great again and I don’t think the Epstein files are capable of doing that. Full stop. If anyone is still trafficking minors, yes let’s stop it. The Epstein files are private for a reason, probably to protect the girls (now adults with families and kids of their own). Let them have the peace they never got as kids.

So called MAGA base are in danger of becoming TDS virtue signaling lunatics they claim to despise over the Epstein issue. The Hegelian propagandists never rest, and this would be counted as a victory for them.

However, the publicity of the Epstein saga itself was a success. It woke up a lot of slumbering sheep as to what was afoot with the bloodline Satanists and the captive worshipers of the Demiurge and the archons. That in and of itself is progress.

Posters around here are on board with exotic theories that they used to routinely scorn and mock. Overton KY Jelly, anyone?

RayPanican says

First, I don’t have ‘TDS’ as you falsely claim.

Oh but you do. It’s called type P TDS. A dangerous variant that is infecting even self described Trump supporters. Others seem to agree.

Ceffer says

So called MAGA base are in danger of becoming TDS virtue signaling lunatics they claim to despise over the Epstein issue.

Ceffer says

Posters around here are on board with exotic theories that they used to routinely scorn and mock. Overton KY Jelly, anyone?

It would be funny, if it weren’t true!

https://jacobin.com/2025/07/jeffrey-epstein-files-trump-elites

Trump’s name, as well as more than a dozen contact numbers, is listed in both of Epstein’s “little black books” of personal contacts (and cryptically circled in one), he flew at least eight times on Epstein’s skin-crawlingly named “Lolita Express,” according to its flight logs. Just last year, author Michael Wolff — who wrote one of the most well-known insider tell-alls about Trump’s first term — revealed that he had roughly a hundred hours’ worth of interview recordings of Epstein talking about “his long standing, deep relationship with Donald Trump.”

The two dated the same woman, Norwegian socialite Celina Midelfart.

Seriously.

Midelfart

Patrick says

Seriously.

Jacobin, as in Jesuit Jacobin? Jesuits invented the tactics that have become Deception 101 for the Intels.

A hundred times, Trump has been exonerated over this stuff. He may have intersected randomly along with canoodling with the EliteFucks, but he spurned Epstein early on and was never 'involved'.


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Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

Midelfart

Must be a Libertarian.

PeopleUnited says

the longer we talk about Epstein the less time we have to expose the election fraud, the Covid frauds, and the globalist digital gulag they are building

Ah, the good old "can't walk and chew gum at the same time" argument. :eyeroll: Knock it off. The DOJ and FBI have plenty of grunts to dig into multiple issues if directed to do so.

PeopleUnited says

Epstein a core issue? wow.

Yes, one of the core issues. Part of the promise to "drain the swamp", "dismantle the deep state" and expose Demon rats as perpetuators of scamdemic, election fraud and pedophilia. It was practically promised that big heads would roll once Trump's eager minions take the helm at the relevant agencies. Half a year later all we get is "let's not talk about this because it distracts us from that". Pathetic.

DOJ has all the evidence it needs. There is not going to be more evidence. If there was anything to release (that would not harm innocent people) Trump has directed Bondi to release it. No more digging needed. They watched all the child porn, and decided there was nothing more they can say. Some people just can’t handle the truth and would rather turn to fables.

Patrick says

... The Epstein saga is like a Greek Tragedy without any Greeks without any hope for collective catharsis.

Lots of foreplay without the action. Maybe its a form of Tantric Politics.

PeopleUnited says

DOJ has all the evidence it needs. There is not going to be more evidence. If there was anything to release (that would not harm innocent people) Trump has directed Bondi to release it. No more digging needed. They watched all the child porn, and decided there was nothing more they can say. Some people just can’t handle the truth and would rather turn to fables.

So all that election campaign confidence and promises was pure and utter bullshit. They acted like they knew something but they did not know shit. Fucking Patel practically made his career on the promise to expose Epstein clients among rich and powerful. If that was bullshit his sorry useless lying ass needs to be fired right fucking now.

PeopleUnited says

RayPalestine says

I challenge you to provide proof

The proof is in the pudding, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. If you don’t hate Israel, you have a strange way of loving them. Calling them out for false accusations of genocide, child rape trafficking, did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, they betrayed America several times right?

You said that I hate Jewish people, which of course I don’t and you failed to provide any statement that I have ever made on this site to back up your totally baseless claim. There are a number of Jews living in Israel that have accused Netanyahu’s government of committing genocide in Gaza. There are a large number of Jews all over the world that do the same. Do they ‘hate Jews’ as well for expressing their opposition to these inhumane policies? Sen. Bernie Sanders is Jewish and has been a very harsh critic of Netanyahu’s policies in Gaza. In your mind, Sanders must be antisemitic, right? Are the thousands of Orthodox Jews in Israel and around the world, who oppose the State of Israel because they believe that it was created on violence and not by obeying God’s OT to return to Him in faith and obedience, and then He will give them the promised land. Does that make these Orthodox Jews Jew haters? Probably to you they are!

Criticizing ANY government’s policies does not necessarily mean that it is fueled by hatred for the PEOPLE of that country. Apparently, in your mind it does.

Eric Holder says

Yes, one of the core issues.

Sorry if you believe that. It always was a side show, not a main event.

It’s like the OJ Simpson trial, with less facts available to actually discuss. Just a distraction. If he hadn’t died in jail we would not even be having this conversation.

This "list" unknown if it even exists "lies" is being held up like a pinata to wack at from all sides.

PeopleUnited says

It’s like the OJ Simpson trial, with less facts available to actually discuss. Just a distraction. If he hadn’t died in jail we would not even be having this conversation.

we would, government is protecting someone. If it's a nothing burger, they would have published files long ago with "see we told you so". But when manipulative bullshit comes out, they hiding stuff.

By the way PeopleUnited, your use of ‘PalistineRay’ is very, very childish. When you use such immature attacks upon a person’s identity, it diminishes you as a person … not me. If it makes you feel somehow superior by using it, then by all means continue to do so. Strange people get strange kicks out of doing things. Enjoy!

RayPalestine says

You said that I hate Jewish people,

Nope, That is not what I said. I said you need to repent (change your mind) about those people you keep accusing falsely. If not the joos, I guess it is just “Zionists “ that you oppose?

RayPalestine says

By the way PeopleUnited, your use of ‘PalistineRay’ is very, very childish. When you use such immature attacks upon a person’s identity, it diminishes you as a person … not me. If it makes you feel somehow superior by using it, then by all means continue to do so. Strange people get strange kicks out of doing things. Enjoy!

It’s Ray Palestine, because it seems you care more about terrorists, and condemnation of “Zionists” than protecting America. I don’t think you are worthy of the American title in your name, and that is my perspective. So I call you by your actions. It doesn’t make me feel anything, but I yes definitely feel what I call you is accurate. And yes, will continue to use it, or you could just change it and save me the time.

Fortwaye says

PeopleUnited says

It’s like the OJ Simpson trial, with less facts available to actually discuss. Just a distraction. If he hadn’t died in jail we would not even be having this conversation.

we would, government is protecting someone. If it's a nothing burger, they would have published files long ago with "see we told you so". But when manipulative bullshit comes out, they hiding stuff.

If you believed there were going to be prosecutions of thousands of pedophiles I think you have been manipulated into believing a fable.

this is what Epstein case is to me:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/07/the_jeffrey_epstein_case_is_far_bigger_than_jeffrey_epstein.html

and i’m not alone, I think many Americans feel same.

RayPalestine says

Criticizing ANY government’s policies does not necessarily mean that it is fueled by hatred for the PEOPLE of that country.

The totality of your body of work here indicates your distaste for the bogeyman you call “Zionists”. You know who the Zionists include? People who believe that when God promised the promised land to the descendants of Israel for all generations, that means All generations. As in the people who can trace their lineage back to Isaac and Jacob have an unconditional God given right to live on that land in perpetuity. If you criticize people who believe in that, yes I consider that hatred if not of the children of Israel but of the God who made the promise in the first place.

But I am not your judge, I just call it like I see it.

Fortwaye says

this is what Epstein case is to me:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/07/the_jeffrey_epstein_case_is_far_bigger_than_jeffrey_epstein.html

and i’m not alone, I think many Americans feel same.

Undoubtedly many feel that way, but what gave them the idea that Epstein ran a honeypot blackmail scheme? I have not seen any evidence. It is a fable invented to distract from the fact that rich people are perverts who do a lot of perverted things. It makes no sense that men would be stupid enough to risk their careers or reputations for some underage sex. No sense at all.

Eric Holder says

Patel practically made his career on the promise to expose Epstein clients among rich and powerful. If that was bullshit his sorry useless lying ass needs to be fired right fucking now.

Why not, if that is true! I don’t know because I have never heard him say anything, he has had basically no impact on my life other than as a butt of jokes for liberal comedians. It is possible like so many others that he is the media/entertainment equivalent of a snake oil salesmen.

PeopleUnited says

RayPalestine says

I challenge you to provide proof

The proof is in the pudding, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. If you don’t hate Israel, you have a strange way of loving them. Calling them out for false accusations of genocide, child rape trafficking, did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, they betrayed America several times right?

I wouldn't be so sure. There are plenty of credible accusations. It's the same as calling people racist or misogynists, it's an easy way out. This was on ZH the other day, but didn't want to turn it into a thread only to hear attacks about the testifying soldiers or the news source: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-soldiers-say-grenade-drones-being-used-civilians-none-them-were-armed

Sounds pretty gory to me.
But I'm mostly focused on America and Europe first and would welcome a stable middle east to stop at least part of the rapefugee train pouring into the West. Yes, there will always be economically motivated migrants, but not only is the number significantly higher during active war/conflicts, you cannot proof that they aren't fleeing from violemce, which makes a better case for the leftoids plight to let everyone in.