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2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   16,679 views  955 comments

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Rudy W. Giuliani
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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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700   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 12, 8:59am  

WookieMan says

Biden had 4 years. Now Dems are trying flare up an internal fight with MAGA folks and they're biting. Everything happened under Democrats.

They're fooling a lot of you cats and you're biting. Push it back on Dems. Flight logs mean shit, but they were mostly Dem or left leaning flying on his plane.

YUP.
702   RC2006   2025 Jul 12, 9:22am  

PanicanDemoralizer says

WookieMan says


Biden had 4 years. Now Dems are trying flare up an internal fight with MAGA folks and they're biting. Everything happened under Democrats.

They're fooling a lot of you cats and you're biting. Push it back on Dems. Flight logs mean shit, but they were mostly Dem or left leaning flying on his plane.

YUP.


If your going to say this is all a one side thing then your as bad as the left. Yes the left tries to normalize it, but this issue is on both sides, it's of a uniparty issue. This shit has been going on forever across both sides. Both sides are trying to cover it up. Even the excuse that the people involved are so powerful their being exposed could cause collapses, will then so be it let shit collapse because doing nothing just expands it to an inevitable end anyways.
705   RC2006   2025 Jul 12, 9:41am  

Its ridiculous to defend Trump and his administration on this subject and anyone that does is no better than how the crazy left cult defend it's side. Normal people not left or right have been blatantly lied to by by Trump and his administration. We were straight up told thousands of hours of video, lists, ect then all of a sudden nothing to see here just forget anything said the last six months. Just looking at their facial expressions as they try to blow this off seems extremely off.
706   GreaterNYCDude   2025 Jul 12, 9:43am  

Patrick says

PanicanDemoralizer says


Well, Epstein's own attorney and falsely accused by Epstein victims, DERSH, says there is tons of documents that came out in discovery and are being surpressed... and he wants it all out because there's a lot of false accusations that won't stand scrutiny.


My own impression is that Dershowitz was almost but not quite captured. Seems to have had a topless underage girl on his lap, but claims he had sex with nobody, and that might be true.

Perhaps he couldn't get it up. Viagra wasn't approved for ED until 1998.

As an aside it was originally intended to be a heart medicine but during clinical trials men noticed an unusual "side effect"

I took a tour of the Pizer headquarters at the time in Groton, CT back during my undergrad years. Back before big pharma was "Big Pharma (TM)"
707   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 12, 9:46am  

RC2006 says


We were straight up told thousands of hours of video, lists, ect then all of a sudden nothing to see here just forget anything said the last six months

Here's one reason: They're sealed under judges orders.

Another: They exist, but can't be found.

Or: They've been a mix of tampered with, hidden, destroyed or sealed and Trump doesn't want our enemies to know how renegade our Counterintel is.
708   GreaterNYCDude   2025 Jul 12, 9:52am  

PanicanDemoralizer says

They've been a mix of tampered with, hidden, destroyed or sealed

The longer they wait, the more plausible deniability there is given were in the age of AI deep fakes and fake news.

Allan Dershowitz is an odd hero but I'll take it. My gut tells me he's telling the truth on this one and I can't explain why.
709   WookieMan   2025 Jul 12, 10:07am  

RC2006 says

thousands of hours of video

Could just be empty rooms on video. When an act happened Epstein transferred the video out of country and deleted it wherever the location was. You cannot be that stupid to just keep it on location. My cameras record 20 min files and then starts a new file. We could be on vacation for a week, empty house and there would be thousands of files for just 6 cameras.

They then overwrite after two weeks, so I don't need some server rack with petabytes of data. You grab the blackmail file and send it to a server in a non-extradition country. I'd have 6,000 files in 2 weeks and might not even be home. I figured a lot of the tech guys here would know this.

So this thousands of "videos" is nonsense. Not to be crude, but I have my own videos with my wife. Encrypted mini sd not connected to the internet or computer and not at my house. It's easy to hide something the size of a penny or less anywhere. These videos are BS in my opinion. And if anything it's just Epstein or Maxwell doing a 3 some with a minor. Sick, but you can't just implicate a bunch of people. Trust me I'd love to see Clinton in jail and the others. It's not gonna happen.
712   WookieMan   2025 Jul 12, 10:53am  

The_Deplorable says




https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired

All videos are doctored. I don't know what planet people have been living on. This has been done since the 1950's and probably before. All media is doctored. All surveillance cameras are doctored before they get to authorities. This is why nothing happens with the Epstein files. I want something to happen, I'm just being realistic. Nothing will happen. They don't have legit evidence, just stuff that doesn't implicate anyone because the house keeper from cleaning the room.
713   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jul 12, 12:25pm  

Patrick says

Feels kind of AI generated to me.


Yeah, hard to tell anymore these days. I think it's fake. Why not just list all the damn names and actions in one go instead of some multiple data drop BS.
714   HeadSet   2025 Jul 12, 1:32pm  

The_Deplorable says




https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired

I worked with pro style surveillance cameras. They record in a proprietary codec that cannot be edited. The original can be copied to a format like MP4 that can be edited, but no serious investigator or court will accept a video that is not in that original uneditable format. Even so, it is easy to tell when an MP4 (or other codec) has been modified. I presume they determined that Adobe Premiere was used by looking at compression artifacts. Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.
716   WookieMan   2025 Jul 12, 3:18pm  

HeadSet says

Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.

You'd be surprised. What you say is correct, but there's incompetence everywhere. Remember a lot of jobs are nepotism. They might not have the qualifications to understand what you just wrote. Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.

Put this way in a realm I know. Everyone likely has goofed off on a drum set. That doesn't make them a drummer. It takes thousands of hours to know what you're doing. Video editing is way more complicated than the average person knows. I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.
719   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 4:39pm  

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/jeffrey-epsteins-brother-breaks-silence


Mark Epstein, brother of the late Jeffrey Epstein, dismissed a bombshell memo from the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation that declares the disgraced financier’s 2019 death a suicide, accusing the government of covering up the truth. ...

“Every time they say something or try to do something to quash that he most likely was murdered, they put their foot further in their mouth,” Mark Epstein said in an interview with NewsNation host Chris Cuomo. “When Kash Patel came out with that statement, I laughed at how stupid it was.” ...

On Tuesday, Trump himself brushed off questions about Epstein during an exchange with reporters.

“Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy’s been talked about for years,” Trump said, while taking questions during a Cabinet meeting.

“You’re asking – we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things, and are people still talking about this guy? This creep? That is unbelievable. I mean, I can’t believe you’re asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we’re having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.”
721   The_Deplorable   2025 Jul 12, 5:11pm  

WookieMan says
"All videos are doctored."

Nonsense. The metadata of the video proved that the Epstein prison video
is a fabrication.
723   HeadSet   2025 Jul 12, 7:05pm  

WookieMan says

Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.

WookieMan says

I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.

What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.
724   WookieMan   2025 Jul 12, 9:45pm  

HeadSet says

What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.

Not my state. Everywhere. You guys have too much faith in people or assume they truly know what they're doing. I can and have built websites for small companies. Doesn't mean I know the details of it at all and don't know much of anything about website building. But I can make one that looks better than the pros.

I can record a drum track with 16 mics in my home. I go by what sounds good. I don't care about the file format or anything.

I've edited plenty of video. Doesn't mean I know what I'm doing. Most don't know the technical details and just use software and make it look good. 90% of TV stations don't have "experts" they have people that can edit. My SIL was broadcast and metrology dual major and worked for a network. We visited the studio with the kids. Everyone was a moron there. Where talking a big 4 network. Not gonna dox myself.
725   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jul 12, 9:51pm  

Maybe Bongino will step down and Kash can get a better deputy that knows how to run things. That's really the deputy job and Dan seems to be in way over his head. Maybe pick a former FIB employee who left as a whistle blower who knows how things work. And then they can circle back and give a more detailed explanation as to why they believe what they are saying.

All the people who collected the original evidence, etc., in one big transparency media event. Get into the details. Were they unable to identify any of the Johns and if not why not. ETC. ETC. ETC.

Today I heard someone say:

Democrats think Democracy is whatever it is that they like. Republicans think transparency is whatever it is that they like.

To me it looks like one of the biggest gaslighting events I've ever seen except maybe the covid cover up.
726   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 10:08pm  

RWSGFY says






Looks like they both caved and sold out at the first opportunity.
727   WookieMan   2025 Jul 12, 10:39pm  

Patrick says

Looks like they both caved and sold out at the first opportunity.

I don't know. I think Trump promised it and they got in and there's nothing there. Bondi slipped up and said the files were on her desk. What files? Video? Paper documentation? Or just files of Epstein and Maxwell trafficking people? They were already found guilty. It literally might have just been for themselves. Kash and Bongino are probably like, shit, we can't deliver.

I have no issue looking at young women and girls of a young age, clothed. Stops there. I think that most men are in this camp. There are plenty of 22 year old legal hotties out there. Outside of STD potential they know their game in the bed. Most the people on the potential "list" have money. They didn't get their money being stupid and risking jail time screwing minors when you can just walk onto a college campus or bar.
729   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 13, 2:37am  




What's missing from Trump's official issues list?
730   stfu   2025 Jul 13, 3:41am  

What's missing from Trump's official issues list?

21) Bomb Israels' enemies
731   clambo   2025 Jul 13, 6:23am  

Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike.

How would a person who wanted Epstein dead accomplish it? He or she (Hillary?) would have to pay a gazillion bucks to the guards to open the cell and turn off cameras, and of course, keep their mouths shut.

How would the loser guards hide that bribe? Have any of you guys tried to sneak $10,000+ into a bank account?

Would those loser guards keep quiet or would they start flaunting their new wealth?

Would the people who wanted Epstein locked up not have spies observing the guards' every move?

If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?

Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?

If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.

The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.

Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.

I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.

The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.

Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.
734   PeopleUnited   2025 Jul 13, 8:10am  

clambo says

Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike

clambo says

If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?

Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?

If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.

The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.

Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.

I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.

The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.

Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.


Very good points Clambo, I touched on some of this earlier in the thread, but what you are saying is the accusations don’t pass the sniff test. It’s seems you are exactly right. People (including the girls) are being protected from embarrassment for their disgusting sex lives, but that doesn’t mean there is evidence enough to prosecute a long list of sexual deviants for statutory crimes. And if the girls (now long since Who have become adults perhaps with kids of their own) don’t want to testify they should not have to. So who is going to testify what happens behind closed doors if not the John or the Jane? And if the girls don’t want the videos released then that is their right as well. This is a disgusting chapter of American history, but can we put it to rest already?
735   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jul 13, 8:24am  

Trump should have released his statement he made last night months ago.
To be honest, Trump can't do much and will continue to be hamstrung and usurped at every turn, until the issues he stated that he is more focused on is addressed.

He has to beat them(the Cabal) Obama, Clintons, Biden's, weaponized DOJ, CIA, Judges, at crimes that were directed at Trump, before all of the other truths will ever come out. Trump is tied more closer to the truth, with issued that directly pointed and affected him. He can sink into that truth. Chasing the Epstein lore has too much speculation and hearsay.

He should have made that announcement on day one.
736   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jul 13, 8:30am  

Also I don't think it's a coincidence that Obama announced today he's getting back into politics to lead the Democrat party.
He needs to be closer to what spooks are left in the deep state to stop Trump, from prosecuting the crimes he is the victim of.
That will bring down the whole damn house of cards.
Especially when you realize, that everyone has suspected all along since 2015, all of the bad actors in Congress and the alphabet agencies were acting to protect their interest in the Epstein case.

By Trump getting to the bottom of that, the spooks in the Epstein tree will fall out.
737   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 13, 8:30am  

clambo says


The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.

This is what I think. Guiffre was already working as a masseuse or retail clerk or something and was over the AoC.

Then again, this country is full of Girldads who think their 22-year old PharmaRep daughter hasn't banged 100 people from the doctors she visits to conventions she attends to frat boys in college to the football players in HS and the guy in the bar she snuck into at 16
739   Patrick   2025 Jul 13, 9:30am  

https://ground.news/article/ocasio-cortez-slammed-over-defamatory-trump-jeffrey-epstein-post-sue-aoc-into-bankruptcy


On Friday, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez labeled President Trump a 'rapist' and said this complicates Justice Department matters involving Jeffrey Epstein.

The statement followed Trump's 2023 civil ruling finding him liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll, while he denied rape and faced no criminal charges.

The Trump administration is experiencing internal discord and external pressure regarding disclosures about Epstein, with Attorney General Pam Bondi refusing to provide additional information and a senior FBI official, Dan Bongino, reportedly opposing her stance.

Bill O'Reilly backed Trump’s choice to withhold the names of Epstein’s associates, believing that making those identities public could unfairly harm individuals who are innocent, reflecting Trump’s concern about protecting people from unwarranted damage.

This controversy has deepened political divisions and skepticism about the Epstein files, with some Trump supporters criticizing the president's dismissive stance amid ongoing speculation about his ties to Epstein.


We pretty much know the names already.

What Trump needs to do is release the videos that Epstein collected, with the girls' faces and privates blacked out.

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