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Is this what we call winning?


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2025 May 15, 6:24pm   559 views  48 comments

by Fortwaye   ➕follow (3)   ignore (1)  

Trump surrendered on Tariffs.
Deportations going nowhere, they are already sucking out with "just the gang members".
Epstein files went from "on my desk" to "in near future"
They are testing waters on bringing in more immigrants to replace Americans from Africa.
India is replacing Americans even more, since we kissing up to India.
Ukraine war is still a thing, didn't end on day 1 or day 100.
No one been arrested for fraud, theft, shit they put us through in last 4 years.
DOGE found ton of fraud... ZERO prosecutions. What's the fucking point?
"Big Beautiful Bill" - will cut taxes on tips and overtime, while exploding deficits, with fake spending cuts to take in 2029 (will be repealed before they kick in)

This is not what I call winning. The show is great, results are not there. However, Trump as great showman claims it's winning.

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9   AD   2025 May 15, 7:49pm  

PeopleUnited says

We shall see


We may be able to see by end the end of the year such as the fiscal year 2025 deficit and if Trump's cuts from DOGE helped to at least keep the deficit equal to the 2024 deficit when adjusted for inflation.

Also we'll see immigration numbers and trade deficit by next January.

One thing I safely bet on is that there is a lot less encounters at the border compared to Birdbrain Biden admin.

Newsom is blaming Trump (with about 100 days in office) for all of California's budget problems. The stock market has to go up at least 12% a year to keep California financially afloat or solvent.

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10   Glock-n-Load   2025 May 15, 8:02pm  

True or not?

FEMA BOSS TAKEN OUT AFTER DEFYING TRUMP'S ORDER TO TERMINATE THE AGENCY
https://www.facebook.com/100049183538202/posts/pfbid0Vapmv5HiNpa4mhYryZVCPYKXL2bC3wLrkkUTDNy5D5MyWLLvQAi7tue5k6F5LpMzl/?app=fbl

Cameron Hamilton is GONE. Not retired. Not resigned. ESCORTED OUT of FEMA HQ on May 9, 2025, after directly opposing Trump's mission to END FEMA once and for all.

From Ken Adachi--"Hamilton--ex-Navy SEAL, Trump appointee--betrayed the plan. One day after testifying before Congress that eliminating FEMA wasn't "in the best interest of the American people," he was removed in a classified extraction. That wasn't a firing. That was neutralization.
This isn't about disagreement. This is about obedience. FEMA has long been the crown jewel of Deep State control--engineered disasters, martial law drills, emergency powers, underground stockpiles. It was NEVER about helping people. It was about enslaving them.
Trump knew it. Kristi Noem knew it. Hamilton flinched, and he got burned.
In his place: David Richardson, Marine Corps warfighter and former agent of DHS's Counter-Weapons of Mass Destruction Office. Not a bureaucrat. Not a negotiator. A finisher. His appointment is surgical. His mission: shut FEMA down from the inside.
The Deep State is FREAKING OUT. Rep. Tim Kennedy is crying about "grant freezes" and "dereliction of duty." What he really means is: the black-budget cash flow just got shut off. No more secret funds. No more land seizures after "natural disasters." No more FEMA drills that just happen to coincide with military exercises and power grid tests.
This is not chaos. It's surgical demolition.
And it's only the beginning.
Trump is obliterating the federal control grid--CDC, IRS, DOJ, ATF--all next. But FEMA had to go first. It was their kill switch. Their ultimate override. Without FEMA, the pyramid collapses.
Expect blowback. Expect engineered hurricanes, cyberattacks, train derailments. They'll try one last false flag frenzy to justify emergency powers.
But it won't work.
Trump's military alliance is ten steps ahead. The cabal just lost one of its deadliest weapons. FEMA is being dismantled, stripped, and buried.
This is wartime governance.
Hamilton is the warning: Obey the mission or vanish.
The liberation of America is underway.
The Deep State just lost control.
And FEMA... is finished.
11   PeopleUnited   2025 May 15, 8:20pm  

Glock-n-Load says

The Deep State just lost control.

Then it is time to repeal/end “real” ID bullshit which is a foundation for the beast economic system of Revelation. Next step will be “real” ID digital form in your phone or implanted microchip.
12   PeopleUnited   2025 May 15, 8:23pm  

stereotomy says

It's more important that Trump has a political legacy to continue the 180 degree shift from globohomo to MAGA. Ask Wookie - the proper foundation is essential for what comes after.

Trump has begun a process t

That is why I say the true test is can we elect a successor in 2028 who will continue the restoration of our republic, or will a flaming liberal be elected to destroy what is left of this once great nation?

Trump won’t have much of a legacy if Newsom succeeds him for example.
13   PeopleUnited   2025 May 15, 8:26pm  

Fortwaye says

man i didn’t say he’s stupid overall, but that idea is dumb.

I’m on the fence. He is no fool, but he does plenty of stupid things. Warp speed being one of them. And his first administration was riddled with terrible cabinet members and other staffers. He is doing bettering this time around but it does seem he can’t ever admit a mistake which is too bad because he makes plenty of them.
14   Fortwaye   2025 May 15, 9:25pm  

AD says

We may be able to see by end the end of the year such as the fiscal year 2025 deficit and if Trump's cuts from DOGE helped to at least keep the deficit equal to the 2024 deficit when adjusted for inflation.


They haven't cut anything yet. They put some of it into the "big beautiful bill", but set cuts to start in year 2029... which translates into no cuts, since they'll quietly repeal them by 2029. It's bullshit as usual. More debt. They can't cut anything, because cuts mean less opportunistic corporations collecting billions, that's very powerful lobby entering congress to make sure cuts don't happen. Congress is paid for long ago.
15   AD   2025 May 15, 9:26pm  

PeopleUnited says

Ask Wookie - the proper foundation is essential for what comes after.


Yeah, prime example was Biden's open border policy leading to 11 million border encounters, and unknown about that crossed the border undetected.

The key is to make it so that even an executive order signed on Friday at 11:59 pm will draw a lot of negative scrutiny because it reverses a major Trump policy that has proven as a major domestic or national security accomplishment.

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16   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 May 15, 9:51pm  

Just FYI: CBO counts tax cuts as spending. Keep this in mind when certain Republicans who cleared Biden's Budget buster out their committee as well as voted for it try to hold Trump to a princuhpuled Libertarian standard they didn't apply to Xiden.

Also ask those Republicans where THEIR bill or split spending bills are. Any member of Congress can introduce them. A Rules Committee member has the influence and rank to certainly find a cosponsor. Or why in their 13 years in the House they've never gotten a single bill passed.

Getting shit actually done is at least as important as Princuhpuls. Princuhpuls without ability to get shit done is just farting in the wind.
17   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 May 15, 10:09pm  

Oh, and it looks like Fluoride is getting out of the Water Supply, too.

DeSantis just signed that into law in FL, and RFK was just testifying the DHHS is about to pull the plug on it Federally

"Nothing ever happens"
18   Ceffer   2025 May 15, 10:18pm  

I'm content with the slower grinding wheels these days. I think Trump will get there. What's happened so far in the administration is remarkable for such a short time.

Expecting heads to roll and arrests keeps one in the bleaches entertained with instant gladiatorial entertainment, but keep in mind, those whom we hate as figure heads and prison camp guards are still not the main players in the shadows. They would only be replaced by an even more repugnant group, though that would be hard to imagine.
19   Misc   2025 May 16, 1:55am  

Gotta hand it to Trump. He got on his little airplane went to the Middle East and sold over a hundred Boeing jets, 400 jet engines for GE and millions of high value microchips, and inked over $100 billion in Defense contracts.

Do you know how many manufacturing jobs he created with his salesmanship ???

This at zero cost to the taxpayer.
20   Patrick   2025 May 16, 2:23am  

https://www.stevesailer.net/p/whats-trump-doing-right


What's Trump doing right?

For one thing, his Administration declares that racism against whites is wrong, just like racism against anybody else is wrong. That's a great leap forward.
21   WookieMan   2025 May 16, 4:40am  

Patrick says

All true. Still better than Kamala or Biden by miles though.

The only things that really bother me are the continued mRNA death jabs and the lack of any prosecution of Bill Gates or Bill Clinton even though you know the video evidence is there at the FBI.

Nothing will happen. They will just argue that it’s AI and they didn’t go to the island for Gates and Clinton. Easy defense. A time stamp or GPS for crimes is useless. You need a victim. Then it’s the he said she said game. Keep your expectations low to non-existent.
22   Tenpoundbass   2025 May 16, 8:12am  

You're mad at Trump because SCOTUS and the GOP congress has decided even the dog catcher can recind, obstruct and usurp Trmps dictates?
23   Tenpoundbass   2025 May 16, 8:19am  

People hate whinners. They want Trump to lose momentm and focus, and sped two years defending a few issues. Crying and bitching to the judge, only to have every small win reversed on appeal.

Trump is challenging then, but is moving on. The more populist actions he takes and the more they hinder him. The more lawfare is going to appear to the Democrat voters, as the obstructionists, of a high standard of life.

The establishments efforts to hinder Trump will gratw on the voters and will sink establishment candidates in the Primaries.

We need a congress to enable Trump level10.
24   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 16, 8:59am  

AD says

Newsom is blaming Trump (with about 100 days in office) for all of California's budget problems. The stock market has to go up at least 12% a year to keep California financially afloat or solvent.


He's blaming Reagan too.
25   DeficitHawk   2025 May 16, 9:05am  

Fortwaye says

more deficit spending putting kids into debt slavery like indentured servants. can’t cut even the most egregious tax fraud loopholes for billionaires. i’m just really really frustrated with it.


The idea of balancing the budget died decades ago, in the "W" administration. There is NO motivation on either side to achieve this. No one even talks about it or cares. Democrats want to spend more, Republicans want to tax less, neither side will balance the budget. Trump wants to undermine the IRS so the billionaires can proceed to cheat on their taxes without consequences.

If you are trying to eliminate the deficit, no one is on your side. I am frustrated too.
26   AD   2025 May 16, 1:10pm  

DeficitHawk says


Democrats want to spend more, Republicans want to tax less


Yeah I remember reading the Congressional Democrats budget proposal for 2024 was about 6% higher than the previous year. They don't even try to keep government spending increase no more than the annual inflation rate.

Trump did propose increasing taxes on the top 5% or top 3% but I'm not sure if there is going anywhere because of the freedom caucus wing of the Republican party.

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27   mell   2025 May 17, 8:04am  

DeficitHawk says


Fortwaye says


more deficit spending putting kids into debt slavery like indentured servants. can’t cut even the most egregious tax fraud loopholes for billionaires. i’m just really really frustrated with it.


The idea of balancing the budget died decades ago, in the "W" administration. There is NO motivation on either side to achieve this. No one even talks about it or cares. Democrats want to spend more, Republicans want to tax less, neither side will balance the budget. Trump wants to undermine the IRS so the billionaires can proceed to cheat on their taxes without consequences.

If you are trying to eliminate the deficit, no one is on your side. I am frustrated too.


That's utter bs and intentionally obtuse. Billionaires don't give a fuck about taxes cause all they pay are long term capital gains. The majority of the tax burden is on the productive earners making between 150k - 1MM (roughly), preventing them from becoming truly financially independent. Instituting a flat tax on any earnings of max 20% is the way to go to make everyone pay their fair share. Wealth taxes can be used as temporary last resort on billionaires but flat tax, regardless of where and when money was made, is the way to go. Of course this includes cap gains so let's get rid of the stupid double taxation of capital gains. Just pay the flat tax. ABOLISH income tax NOW!
28   AD   2025 May 17, 8:08am  

mell says

That's utter bs and intentionally obtuse. Billionaires don't give a fuck about taxes cause all they pay are long term capital gains.


Need to increase capital gains tax rate on the top 2%.
29   mell   2025 May 17, 8:12am  

AD says

mell says


That's utter bs and intentionally obtuse. Billionaires don't give a fuck about taxes cause all they pay are long term capital gains.


Need to increase capital gains tax rate on the top 2%.

Let everyone pay a flat tax, that's fairest. Make it 20%, or 25%.but then include short term gains as well. All these special rules by income, wealth, or duration of the gains just skewed the playing field and make it unfair. Billionaires can wait forever to take money out, the average person making a great investment move may need gains sooner to pay bills, why punish them? FLAT tax. Done.
30   RWSGFY   2025 May 17, 8:37am  

Fortwaye says

Trump surrendered on Tariffs.
Deportations going nowhere, they are already sucking out with "just the gang members".
Epstein files went from "on my desk" to "in near future"
They are testing waters on bringing in more immigrants to replace Americans from Africa.
India is replacing Americans even more, since we kissing up to India.
Ukraine war is still a thing, didn't end on day 1 or day 100.
No one been arrested for fraud, theft, shit they put us through in last 4 years.
DOGE found ton of fraud... ZERO prosecutions. What's the fucking point?
"Big Beautiful Bill" - will cut taxes on tips and overtime, while exploding deficits, with fake spending cuts to take in 2029 (will be repealed before they kick in)

This is not what I call winning. The show is great, results are not there. However, Trump as great showman claims it's winning.


But the libs are owned, aren't they? 🤡
31   Fortwaye   2025 May 17, 10:57am  

scotus now ruled that illegals are not to be deported. woke clowns
32   stereotomy   2025 May 17, 12:23pm  

Fortwaye says

scotus now ruled that illegals are not to be deported. woke clowns

They are a bunch of self-entitled assholes. They ruled against the libtards only after they were doxxed and there were protests outside their homes and death threats. Now that there's a semblance of law and order, they go back to their commiecunt ways.
33   RWSGFY   2025 May 17, 4:28pm  

Have Bernie hacked the POTUS' account?


35   Fortwaye   2025 Jun 13, 8:10am  

RWSGFY says







yep TACO.

his strategy is create chaos and then back off to make a deal. so it means he never intended to do it.
36   HeadSet   2025 Jun 13, 6:10pm  

RWSGFY says





Then set up a guest worker program. No surprise the farmer "loves them" as they work for peanuts.
37   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jun 13, 6:13pm  

Fortwaye says


his strategy is create chaos and then back off to make a deal. so it means he never intended to do it.

He certainly is pissing off the UFW. Agents are all over Oxnard picking up Illegals, right now.

https://x.com/UFWupdates/status/1933547428541837541

Trump is beta testing remarks just as he always has done. He will deport most and then make a deal for a guest program when he puts the hotels and plantation owners up against a wall.

All the poll numbers are strongly moving towards total deportation:


38   mell   2025 Jun 13, 6:21pm  

AmericanKulak says

He certainly is pissing off the UFW. Agents are all over Oxnard picking up Illegals, right now.

Buddies keep claiming you will not find Americans picking harvest for $20/hour which is bs imo, but as long as this is ingrained in American thinking Trump will face criticism and he has already walked back some, hopefully this is not a complete departure.
39   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jun 13, 6:36pm  

It's the same maximal/reasonable swing back and forth he's always done. Pushing for the max and trying to find the maximum ask that will get a bid.

People are dooming (not you) about the same tactic he's always employed.

I'd be happy if we deported 10-20M but ended up with a farm worker program for a few hundred thousand.

STATES can fight this bullshit by setting their HS and College Calendars around their tourist/harvest seasons. I was told by a North Dakotan that in the 50s, around early Fall, schools had basically half days and students that missed school to work on farms got makeup work of math and reading they had to finish after Christmas Break.
41   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 5, 5:01pm  

YES.

There's one easy tell for a REAL America First party and a Fake One.




42   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 5, 5:10pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says







Awesome. Now Trump will go after the H1Bs to thwart Musk and this new party.
43   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 5, 5:14pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Awesome. Now Trump will go after the H1Bs to thwart Musk and this new party.

That was Musk's first flip out, but he got over it. Ending the New Green Scam Subsidies broke him. Or it's all Kayfabe. Who knows.
44   Patrick   2025 Jul 5, 5:15pm  

H1B should be reformed to require at least 2x the pay that an American would get.

Tech companies would drop H1B like a hot potato because the entire goal is to profit from undercutting US worker wages.

But in the rare case where some foreigner is really worth 2x what they would pay an American, then it would not harm US workers to bring that person into the US.
45   mell   2025 Jul 5, 5:21pm  

Patrick says

H1B should be reformed to require at least 2x the pay that an American would get.

Tech companies would drop H1B like a hot potato because the entire goal is to profit from undercutting US worker wages.

But in the rare case where some foreigner is really worth 2x what they would pay an American, then it would not harm US workers to bring that person into the US.

That and/or tie it to the unemployment rate. Sure they can fudge the number maybe a fraction of a percent, so tie it to 3% or less for example. Above that none, and below that it's a progressive quota.
47   Fortwaye   2025 Jul 7, 8:52pm  

to bump it up.

another lie, Epstein files. we all know how that went.

Ukraine getting more weapons so that day one war not ending

Trump talking Amnesty for illegals.

let’s just say it’s disappointing, because it was all a show.

deficits, just got 5T more. opposite of what was promised.

i’ll give him one nice win, tariffs. he’s making progress there.
48   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 8, 12:57am  

Fortwaye says


Trump talking Amnesty for illegals.

For Farm workers. We already have a farm worker program.

Fortwaye says


deficits, just got 5T more. opposite of what was promised.

You can't fix things, deport millions, keep tax cuts for the middle and working class, and cut the budget. Not realistic

Fortwaye says

i’ll give him one nice win, tariffs. he’s making progress there.


The most important thing since a major driver of printing money and debt is to fund imports over a trillion/year.

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