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So now I'm into E-bikes now that the Commies can't stand them
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2025 May 27, 5:03pm 251 views 16 comments
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Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 5:05pm
Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 5:05pm
Here's my KGK I replaced the seat with a seat I found on a discarded bike it's a cloud 9. Need a seat cover the saitin material wore out already.
I also put on cruiser handlebars instead of the MTB handle bars, much more stable and can sit up straight.
The broke display on the King Song
Here's my free bike I plan to soup up and swap out electronics. I call it the orange crush, it will toss you over the handle bars if you take turn at full speed.
I also put on cruiser handlebars instead of the MTB handle bars, much more stable and can sit up straight.
The broke display on the King Song
Here's my free bike I plan to soup up and swap out electronics. I call it the orange crush, it will toss you over the handle bars if you take turn at full speed.
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HeadSet
2025 May 27, 7:14pm
HeadSet
2025 May 27, 7:14pm
Tenpoundbass says
That is also true for a bike you have to pedal. I use my bike for grocery runs, Post Office, and pharmacy, as all are within 4 miles from my house. The hardware store is within 5 miles. I can do these mostly on bike trails, to boot.
They are just plain fun, quick to get around the neighborhood. To the store and back, before you can take your car there and park in the parking lot, I'll be at the door before you
That is also true for a bike you have to pedal. I use my bike for grocery runs, Post Office, and pharmacy, as all are within 4 miles from my house. The hardware store is within 5 miles. I can do these mostly on bike trails, to boot.
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WookieMan
2025 May 27, 7:31pm
WookieMan
2025 May 27, 7:31pm
HeadSet says
I'd never recommend 2 wheels of any kind. Pedal, Electric, motor, etc. I know plenty of people that have died on them. As a former D1 athlete, most people shouldn't be on them. They don't have the coordination and then the mental awareness of what's going on around them.
Not going to mention the sport I excelled in but it was extremely dangerous, you're doing 5 things at once. On a two wheel device it's coordination and awareness. Most people can't do both. I can move 4 limbs playing the drums. 9 out of 10 people can't play a basic 4/4 beat. Easy sauce.
I'm not some leftie, but I'd wear a helmet. You can get cool looking, non-gay ones. You will eventually get hit by something on a bike if you do it enough. I wear one snowboarding. 2-3 years ago I'd be dead without it. Caught a rock on the nose of the board in powder and landed on top of my head.
Ultimately I just don't like bikes. Not a knock if one does, but I don't want to die via a bike accident. That would be embarrassing. Any style of bike.
. I can do these mostly on bike trails, to boot.
I'd never recommend 2 wheels of any kind. Pedal, Electric, motor, etc. I know plenty of people that have died on them. As a former D1 athlete, most people shouldn't be on them. They don't have the coordination and then the mental awareness of what's going on around them.
Not going to mention the sport I excelled in but it was extremely dangerous, you're doing 5 things at once. On a two wheel device it's coordination and awareness. Most people can't do both. I can move 4 limbs playing the drums. 9 out of 10 people can't play a basic 4/4 beat. Easy sauce.
I'm not some leftie, but I'd wear a helmet. You can get cool looking, non-gay ones. You will eventually get hit by something on a bike if you do it enough. I wear one snowboarding. 2-3 years ago I'd be dead without it. Caught a rock on the nose of the board in powder and landed on top of my head.
Ultimately I just don't like bikes. Not a knock if one does, but I don't want to die via a bike accident. That would be embarrassing. Any style of bike.
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Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 7:49pm
Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 7:49pm
One thing I don't get about ebikes is how tightly coupled the industry is to the bicycle pedals. Some places outlaw bikes with throttles. It's crazy as the bike has more torque, and a higher top end speed by a few miles, when you use Pedal assist. The pedals can be hacked to fool the controller, but the throttle cannot. When the battery dies, peddling them are impractical, ebikes are heavy as hell.
According the class of ebike practically every controller is speed limited, according to the wattage and class. It seems the industry is set up to reward the peddler and punish the throttle users. Governments all over the world are limiting their speed, class and if you can have a throttle or not, some places in the world it's against the law to go over 15, or even have one that can go that fast. For a Johnny come lately there's an obvious element of SJW, regulated engineering about them.
The ebike culture seems to have changed a lot from when they were early on several years back. Funny how they didn't desire to own them, they instead crated ugly step through pastel colored pay as you go city bikes. I would not be riding an ebike if I had to download an app and pay to use shared bikes.
The greenies moved on to EVs and now one has to wonder what are they doing now that Elon ruined that for them?
The ebike riders today all seem to be using them for kicks buying 3000w dual hub 72v Monster ebikes with the 4 inch tires. Or they just buying any old cheap thing they can from Amazon, that can at least go 20mph. I often cruise by dock stations for those rental ebikes, they are all out of business and the bikes are gone, but the charging stations are still there, in a rundown state.
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According the class of ebike practically every controller is speed limited, according to the wattage and class. It seems the industry is set up to reward the peddler and punish the throttle users. Governments all over the world are limiting their speed, class and if you can have a throttle or not, some places in the world it's against the law to go over 15, or even have one that can go that fast. For a Johnny come lately there's an obvious element of SJW, regulated engineering about them.
The ebike culture seems to have changed a lot from when they were early on several years back. Funny how they didn't desire to own them, they instead crated ugly step through pastel colored pay as you go city bikes. I would not be riding an ebike if I had to download an app and pay to use shared bikes.
The greenies moved on to EVs and now one has to wonder what are they doing now that Elon ruined that for them?
The ebike riders today all seem to be using them for kicks buying 3000w dual hub 72v Monster ebikes with the 4 inch tires. Or they just buying any old cheap thing they can from Amazon, that can at least go 20mph. I often cruise by dock stations for those rental ebikes, they are all out of business and the bikes are gone, but the charging stations are still there, in a rundown state.
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Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 7:58pm
Tenpoundbass
2025 May 27, 7:58pm
WookieMan says
I think the bike lanes are so fucking stupid. The moron that thought of them and the idiots that put it in action, should all be round up and fired.
Bikes should be allowed on the sidewalk, and expected give way to pedestrians, and if the sidewalk is too crowded. Then they should walk their bike to the nearest side street, and take the back route.
I saw a video the other day a guy was riding top speed in the bike lane. The street parking is on the left, the sidewalk is on the right. The bicyclist didn't see a toddler get out of a parked car and run to the sidewalk and got hit. The video was posted on x with the question, "who's at fault?"
I think the City Nincompoops are at fault.
When you give bicyclist a lane, they honestly believes that nobody has any right at any time to ever be in that lane, but a bike. You especially see it at the at the beach.
Ultimately I just don't like bikes. Not a knock if one does, but I don't want to die via a bike accident. That would be embarrassing. Any style of bike.
I think the bike lanes are so fucking stupid. The moron that thought of them and the idiots that put it in action, should all be round up and fired.
Bikes should be allowed on the sidewalk, and expected give way to pedestrians, and if the sidewalk is too crowded. Then they should walk their bike to the nearest side street, and take the back route.
I saw a video the other day a guy was riding top speed in the bike lane. The street parking is on the left, the sidewalk is on the right. The bicyclist didn't see a toddler get out of a parked car and run to the sidewalk and got hit. The video was posted on x with the question, "who's at fault?"
I think the City Nincompoops are at fault.
When you give bicyclist a lane, they honestly believes that nobody has any right at any time to ever be in that lane, but a bike. You especially see it at the at the beach.
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WookieMan
2025 May 27, 8:13pm
WookieMan
2025 May 27, 8:13pm
Tenpoundbass says
Irony is rich. I know the guy in the neighboring county that put up share the road with bikes. Worked for the county.
He ended up getting hit by a car on the road riding his bike on a 55mph road with no shoulder. Reap what you sow. 90% of drivers are pissed when they encounter a biker on the road. Pedal biker in this case.
When you give bicyclist a lane, they honestly believes that nobody has any right at any time to ever be in that lane, but a bike. You especially see it at the at the beach.
Irony is rich. I know the guy in the neighboring county that put up share the road with bikes. Worked for the county.
He ended up getting hit by a car on the road riding his bike on a 55mph road with no shoulder. Reap what you sow. 90% of drivers are pissed when they encounter a biker on the road. Pedal biker in this case.
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Karloff
2025 May 27, 9:23pm
Karloff
2025 May 27, 9:23pm
When did the commies start hating them? Are they associating them with Tesla/Musk?
I've never driven an E-bike, but I've seen people get around pretty quickly on them, impressively quick. I still use a regular pedal bike, mainly for exercise and to get out for some fresh air. Grew up with BMX bikes, doing stupid jumps and stunts with friends while young. Never wore a helmet then, still don't. Probably would, if I ever biked in traffic, but I don't trust other drivers, so that's an unlikely scenario. I stick to trails, mostly.
As a driver, yes, I hate cyclists. I've never seen a more arrogant, insolent group of people on the roads, ever. They break the rules, do the stupidest things, and then when they nearly get hit, blame the motorist. Every time I hear about some cyclist getting smeared across the pavement, I think to myself that they probably deserved it.
I've never driven an E-bike, but I've seen people get around pretty quickly on them, impressively quick. I still use a regular pedal bike, mainly for exercise and to get out for some fresh air. Grew up with BMX bikes, doing stupid jumps and stunts with friends while young. Never wore a helmet then, still don't. Probably would, if I ever biked in traffic, but I don't trust other drivers, so that's an unlikely scenario. I stick to trails, mostly.
As a driver, yes, I hate cyclists. I've never seen a more arrogant, insolent group of people on the roads, ever. They break the rules, do the stupidest things, and then when they nearly get hit, blame the motorist. Every time I hear about some cyclist getting smeared across the pavement, I think to myself that they probably deserved it.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 May 28, 4:32am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 May 28, 4:32am
The human body is a limiter on how fast a pedal bike can go. When I am out walking or running on the local trail, fat slobs on e-bikes come whizzing by at a speed that they would never achieve if they pedaled. A lot of these bikes have fat tires, not sure for what. I look at that and see an accident waiting to happen. IMHO, if they go that fast, they should be on the street.
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WookieMan
2025 May 28, 5:52am
WookieMan
2025 May 28, 5:52am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Surprised they allow e-bikes on trails. Thought that was banned most places. I think they'd be fun on private property with acreage, but not on trails or the road. Even as you said on trails it's too fast. That's why the tour de France type bikers drive on the road. Usually 2-3 wide so I have to drive into traffic. A lot of them come out to the country where I live. It's annoying.
Pedal bikes are fine on trails. We have 2 hitch racks for our cars for 8 bikes. We're 30 minutes from a river trail with restaurants and bars. We go up and down the river on a weekend and stop at about 5 places during the summer. Illegal to bike and drink here, but they are no trail cops and who cares. Makes for a fun Saturday or Sunday with a group of adults.
To the drinking thing that's how my SIL gets around since she can't get a license anymore. She got an e-bike. When you notice people commuting with them, there's a high probability they're a multi DUI offender. Those 3 wheel bikes are popular amongst the drunks that don't have a license around my parts. Can get up to 80 miles range, has cargo baskets, etc. They're not super fast though. But with no license you could legally work in your town/suburb without a license.
The human body is a limiter on how fast a pedal bike can go. When I am out walking or running on the local trail, fat slobs on e-bikes come whizzing by at a speed that they would never achive if they pedaled. A lot of these bikes have fat tires, not sure for what. I look at that and see an accident waiting to happen. IMHO, if they go that fast, they should be on the street.
Surprised they allow e-bikes on trails. Thought that was banned most places. I think they'd be fun on private property with acreage, but not on trails or the road. Even as you said on trails it's too fast. That's why the tour de France type bikers drive on the road. Usually 2-3 wide so I have to drive into traffic. A lot of them come out to the country where I live. It's annoying.
Pedal bikes are fine on trails. We have 2 hitch racks for our cars for 8 bikes. We're 30 minutes from a river trail with restaurants and bars. We go up and down the river on a weekend and stop at about 5 places during the summer. Illegal to bike and drink here, but they are no trail cops and who cares. Makes for a fun Saturday or Sunday with a group of adults.
To the drinking thing that's how my SIL gets around since she can't get a license anymore. She got an e-bike. When you notice people commuting with them, there's a high probability they're a multi DUI offender. Those 3 wheel bikes are popular amongst the drunks that don't have a license around my parts. Can get up to 80 miles range, has cargo baskets, etc. They're not super fast though. But with no license you could legally work in your town/suburb without a license.
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Tenpoundbass
2025 May 28, 6:44am
Tenpoundbass
2025 May 28, 6:44am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Those 4 inch fat tire bikes, many of them can go 35 to 45 mph, depending on battery and motor size, they should be limited to the road only.
Then there's a faction trying to make those bikes have to register like a motor cycle and make you get a license for them. The fat tires are that big for snow, sand and any lose material that thinner tires and pedal bikes can't go through.
A lot of these bikes have fat tires, not sure for what. I look at that and see an accident waiting to happen. IMHO, if they go that fast, they should be on the street.
Those 4 inch fat tire bikes, many of them can go 35 to 45 mph, depending on battery and motor size, they should be limited to the road only.
Then there's a faction trying to make those bikes have to register like a motor cycle and make you get a license for them. The fat tires are that big for snow, sand and any lose material that thinner tires and pedal bikes can't go through.
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zzyzzx
2025 May 28, 7:24am
zzyzzx
2025 May 28, 7:24am
WookieMan says
If they are banned, who is going to enforce that?
Surprised they allow e-bikes on trails. Thought that was banned most places.
If they are banned, who is going to enforce that?
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WookieMan
2025 May 28, 7:27am
WookieMan
2025 May 28, 7:27am
zzyzzx says
Other bikers. But technically no one. I've seen videos where it turns into an altercation for the pedal bikers and e-bikers against each other. If the cops get called then maybe something. I'd guess they'd just come and say get over it and go about your day. Not worth the cops time.
WookieMan says
Surprised they allow e-bikes on trails. Thought that was banned most places.
If they are banned, who is going to enforce that?
Other bikers. But technically no one. I've seen videos where it turns into an altercation for the pedal bikers and e-bikers against each other. If the cops get called then maybe something. I'd guess they'd just come and say get over it and go about your day. Not worth the cops time.
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Tenpoundbass
2025 May 28, 8:12am
Tenpoundbass
2025 May 28, 8:12am
Remember when cell phones first came out, everyone that didn't have them would just look at those that did have them with pure disdain?
That's what's going on with ebikes. First they were clunky dicky step through rent a ride bikes, and weren't widely available to the public at affordable prices or many options. Now they are cheap with a wide range of options. Get one, you'll change your opinion on them guaranteed.
Actually far more dangerous than the ebikes are the electric scooters. Ironically had the same rent to use scheme as the ebikes. Now they are powerful and widely available to anyone with an Amazon account. They are a rolling disaster though. Some can reach speeds up to 65mph. My friend's wife is a trauma nurse. She says about ten people come in a week in serious condition, from crashing them. What's more is people buy them then try to make them into an ebike putting seat posts on them, they have 1000 watt hubs, meant for big fat tire bikes, those things go way faster than they should.
ebikes rules could and should be tweaked to make them safer for everyone. I would start by embracing the throttle and making them the most important safety feature. Rather than a free spinning throttle. That goes from 0 to 100 of the torque with just a tiny twist of the throttle. They should have indents that denotes 5mph increments of speed.
The pedal sensors or Pedal Assist, PAS has modes 1 through 3 to 5, but between your leg pedaling and the motor engaging, you could already be at a dangerous speed, on a crowded pedestrian situation even on mode 1. Well over 5mph if the speed was determined by a twist of the throttle.
That's what's going on with ebikes. First they were clunky dicky step through rent a ride bikes, and weren't widely available to the public at affordable prices or many options. Now they are cheap with a wide range of options. Get one, you'll change your opinion on them guaranteed.
Actually far more dangerous than the ebikes are the electric scooters. Ironically had the same rent to use scheme as the ebikes. Now they are powerful and widely available to anyone with an Amazon account. They are a rolling disaster though. Some can reach speeds up to 65mph. My friend's wife is a trauma nurse. She says about ten people come in a week in serious condition, from crashing them. What's more is people buy them then try to make them into an ebike putting seat posts on them, they have 1000 watt hubs, meant for big fat tire bikes, those things go way faster than they should.
ebikes rules could and should be tweaked to make them safer for everyone. I would start by embracing the throttle and making them the most important safety feature. Rather than a free spinning throttle. That goes from 0 to 100 of the torque with just a tiny twist of the throttle. They should have indents that denotes 5mph increments of speed.
The pedal sensors or Pedal Assist, PAS has modes 1 through 3 to 5, but between your leg pedaling and the motor engaging, you could already be at a dangerous speed, on a crowded pedestrian situation even on mode 1. Well over 5mph if the speed was determined by a twist of the throttle.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 May 28, 9:13am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 May 28, 9:13am
zzyzzx says
Who enforcess not riding a motorcycle on walking paths?
If they are banned, who is going to enforce that?
Who enforcess not riding a motorcycle on walking paths?
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WookieMan
2025 May 28, 9:38am
WookieMan
2025 May 28, 9:38am
Tenpoundbass says
This is why they should be kept to rural areas. On the rare occasion I'm in a city like San Diego or Spokane, WA I see people wiping out or hitting other people all the time. I hate cities, so if I see it every time they're clearly not safe in urban settings. The rental ones are the worst.
I hate restrictions and rules, but most people are just not capable of using 2 wheel devices without practice in urban settings. You get tourist coming in that think they know what they're doing. "Oh these things look cool."
The pedal sensors or Pedal Assist, PAS has modes 1 through 3 to 5, but between your leg pedaling and the motor engaging, you could already be at a dangerous speed, on a crowded pedestrian situation even on mode 1. Well over 5mph if the speed was determined by a twist of the throttle.
This is why they should be kept to rural areas. On the rare occasion I'm in a city like San Diego or Spokane, WA I see people wiping out or hitting other people all the time. I hate cities, so if I see it every time they're clearly not safe in urban settings. The rental ones are the worst.
I hate restrictions and rules, but most people are just not capable of using 2 wheel devices without practice in urban settings. You get tourist coming in that think they know what they're doing. "Oh these things look cool."
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Misc
2025 May 29, 1:40am
Looks like E-bikes have gone super high-tech.
Hopefully this new model has a better range than the current one.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/star-wars-speeder-bikes-are-now-real-and-they-can-fly-over-120-mph/ar-AA1FFgg1
Hopefully this new model has a better range than the current one.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/star-wars-speeder-bikes-are-now-real-and-they-can-fly-over-120-mph/ar-AA1FFgg1
A friend of mine bought a new E-Cells a few months back. He had a King Song that fell off the car rack and busted the buttons off the display unit.
You can tap the tactile buttons on the green board, with the tip of the zip tie that holds it to the handlebars. It still works otherwise, and the busted buttons and holder on the display unit was the only damage the bike sustained. He offered me the bike as he didn't want it anymore.
So I took the bike have plans to fix the screen, but in doing so, I'll have to replace much of the electronics that goes with it. As it's one of those that the controller has a cable that goes to the screen, then from the back of the screen, has 5 wires out, that feeds the throttle, lights, and brake sensors. brake lights, and horn. It's a 48v 350W 22A controller and hub motor.
In my Amazon search for my options, I got sucked into buying a new bike for cheap.
I got a KGK 26in 36V 350W 22A bike. The parts are all quality, the bike is a good 5 year NOS, at the time sold for around $900. It's got 55nm of torque, and can get up to 20mph in around 9 seconds. Now for the bad part. It's not the bike I thought I was buying. Amazon sellers are doing dirty tricks. They are conflating two totally different products. The main page that I clicked on was for an Ancheer 750W 27in 48V bicycle. The bike I selected was one of those options you see from time to time near the price. It was different in looks, but I thought the specs were the same. The one thing I'm disappointed about is not having a LCD display where I can visually see Speed, distance, and battery. The one I got is a LCD display that only shows, it's powered, the PAS level and battery level.
I found what I bought only after confronting the seller on their dishonest product listing.
Here's where it was listed, it was removed as an option after I complained.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DXPJ2VGT?ref_=pe_123509780_1038749300_t_fed_asin_title&th=1
This is the bike that was listed along with the above. The KGK branding was facing away, on the other side it's just black. no where does it say anywhere Ancheer on this bike. The original listing has been removed.
https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Mountain-Commuter-Trekking-Removable/dp/B09G9SYNFP/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
But I really am impressed with what I got out even if I whish it had more power and a lcd display. I may just put on an old school speedo.
It has Kenda tires, MXUS rear Hub, KT controller, now I've got two projects.