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Why is Deep State is using Massie and Rand?

Because if they bring out Murkowski and Collins, people will be like "Well if those two RINOs are against it... it MUST be good"

The DS is desperate to stop BBB beefed up Border Control & Deportations. It's KEY to them. Don't fall for it.

I've said it again and again so I'll say it for the upteenth time: The one thing you can depend on Massie and Rand for is stopping all threats to Extreme Hyperimmigration. Both have voted to increase migration and for some crazy budgets. Wide Open Borders and more immigration (inc. H1Bs) is dear to their heart.

If they were so fiscally concerned, they'd not spend most of their time and oxygen complaining about the BBB's Beefed Up Border/Deportation funding. They'd find other things to complain about. They would regrettably endorse Tariffs "For Now".

If you all remember, the Gang of 8 Bill was Amnesty now, vague promises of Border Enforcement later.

The same Senate and House GOPers that voted to spend billions for a high speed rail that can boast maybe 20 miles of completed track after 10 years of construction...

want you to know a few Billion for 100s of miles of border wall is absolutely infeasible and a waste of money.

AmericanKulak says

He wants the spending cut at least in half.

I also want spending cut at least in half.

If that doesn't happen, the government will soon be spending all its money on interest alone.

Patrick says

I also want spending cut at least in half.

Yes. After the border is fully funded for the first time in decades since the primary duty of the US is to defend it's geophysical integrity.

Otherwise, we're just paying off the debt for the Post-Constitutional Empire of Mexicostan - why bother?

Rand can privatize the TVA and raise the difference. Remember, the BBB is just mandatory spending. The discretionary, the big one, is the one to cut to the very bone. That's the next one, not this one.

Also, Rand and Massie must endorse the tariff or be laughed at for insincerity. If we're really so hard up for debt, why do they want to abolish the tariff, the expressly, explicitly Constitutional tax right in the original version?

Let me get this straight: Thomas Massie voted with every Democrat against the BBB because it didn’t include any DOGE spending cuts and raised the debt ceiling — even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden.

Then today, the same Thomas Massie again sided with every Democrat to oppose $9.4 billion in DOGE spending cuts — because the recissions package also included a resolution that makes further spending cuts to BBB, the very thing he claimed he wanted.

So no, it’s not about spending cuts.
It’s about his terminal TDS.
https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1932965431016346047

AmericanKulak says

even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden

@grok

Congressman Thomas Massie has not always voted against raising the debt ceiling. In 2023, he voted for the Limit, Save, Grow Act, which increased the debt ceiling, citing its spending cuts as justification. This was his first such vote, breaking a pattern of opposition. However, in 2025, he voted against H.R. 1, which included a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase, likely due to insufficient fiscal reforms. His general stance is against debt ceiling hikes without significant spending reductions, though the 2023 vote shows he can support them under specific conditions.

AmericanKulak says

After the border is fully funded for the first time in decades since the primary duty of the US is to defend it's geophysical integrity.

Defending the border is very cheap by comparison with everything else the government is spending money on. The BBB could be much smaller along with generously funding border security.

Patrick says

Defending the border is very cheap by comparison

Need to make sure any new hires are "boots on the ground" and not in the back office far away from the border

Hire a new border agent and likely it costs about $150,000 per year per border agent (includes all compensation and overhead associated with that agent like new vehicle assigned to him)

RFK Jr says the Big Beautiful Bill includes a $75 per month Healthcare Program, where you can get a Concierge Doctor, who’s Available 24/7…. NO BILLS. NO INSURANCE CLAIMS!

“It’s going to be like old style healthcare”

• It also includes a “Health Savings Account” which can FULLY PAY for things such as Gym Memberships

• This will also create on-site medical centers by employers, at various workplaces, where workers can get treated for FREE if they choose.
https://t.co/4EbRZiCnA4

Patrick says

even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden

grok

Congressman Thomas Massie has not always voted against raising the debt ceiling. In 2023, he voted for the Limit, Save, Grow Act, which increased the debt ceiling, citing its spending cuts as justification. This was his first such vote, breaking a pattern of opposition. However, in 2025, he voted against H.R. 1, which included a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase, likely due to insufficient fiscal reforms. His general stance is against debt ceiling hikes without significant spending reductions, though the 2023 vote shows he can support them under specific conditions.

Yes, so I'm correct.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/118-2023/h199

So he gave Biden 18 months of a raised debt ceiling AND continued COVID-era massive spending... then turned around and was up Trump's ass before he was even inaugurated. Massie-ive difference in behavior.

As I posted a few weeks ago before the BBB hit the fan, Grok sometimes says somebody votes against something or for something when they did the opposite. It really sucks for checking vote history.

AmericanKulak says

RFK Jr says the Big Beautiful Bill includes a $75 per month Healthcare Program, where you can get a Concierge Doctor, who’s Available 24/7…. NO BILLS. NO INSURANCE CLAIMS!

“It’s going to be like old style healthcare”

• It also includes a “Health Savings Account” which can FULLY PAY for things such as Gym Memberships

That would be amazing. But you know who won’t like it? Insurance companies, even many employers. Tons of people work later in life just to pay health insurance. A ton of people are going to retire immediately if they can get healthcare covered for $75 a month.

PeopleUnited says

A ton of people are going to retire immediately if they can get healthcare covered for $75 a month.

Cost is just part of the problem. The big issue is not enough doctors, nurses, PAs, et all, to service the demand if health care was universally affordable. Any national health coverage better include a provision to train and equip more medical pros. Maybe medical service academies or ROTC like scholarships. Have the graduates serve a 5-year commitment like the military officers where they will be stationed where they are needed.

We really need catastrophic coverage back and get the insurance middlemen the fuck out of health care

HeadSet says

The big issue is not enough doctors, nurses, PAs, et all

I think an even bigger problem is that many if not most chronic diseases and injuries are from poor choices. Smoking, diet, alcohol, drugs, mental illness due to poor spiritual and mental hygiene, lack of exercise, lack of knowledge by both the public and physicians on how to prevent disease, and not enough efforts to do preventive healthcare. People need time and motivation to pursue health and this is almost wholly ignored in our society. We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

PeopleUnited says

We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

Most people know that smoking and drinking are bad, that exercise is needed and overeating is unhealthy. They want medicine to compensate for bad choices. Case in point - Type 2 diabetes can in the vast majority of cases be cured by losing weight, yet we have dozens of pills available to "treat" it. The tubbos will ditch any health professional who suggests a diet plan and exercise routine and instead seek one who will proscribe the pills.

HeadSet says

PeopleUnited says

We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

Most people know that smoking and drinking are bad, that exercise is needed and overeating is unhealthy. They want medicine to compensate for bad choices. Case in point - Type 2 diabetes can in the vast majority of cases be cured by losing weight, yet we have dozens of pills available to "treat" it. The tubbos will ditch any health professional who suggests a diet plan and exercise routine and instead seek one who will proscribe the pills.

Absolutely, type 2 is 100% reversible by lifestyle only. Eat half, double the exercise. Avoid excess sugar.

Of course he does, his EV subsidies aren't funded.

Build Back Better greatly increased the size and spending of government.

Big Beautiful Bill reduces the size and spending of government. It reduces the taxes people pay.

One noticeable difference was Biden was going to add 80000 IRS agents to go after regular Americans. Trump reduced the size of the IRS by 30000.
If you think they were going to go after rich Americans---you'd be wrong.

BBB adds 10,000 ICE/DHS agents, funds the wall finally and completely, absolutely necessary precondition to deport millions.
Keeps the Trump tax cuts.
Increases requirements for Medicaid and benefits.
No Tax on Tips and Overtime.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/myth-vs-fact-the-one-big-beautiful-bill/

Rep. Ilhan Omar

This abomination of a bill gives $150 BILLION for immigration enforcement.

And they’re paying for it by cutting MEDICAID and SNAP.

They want to take food off your table and healthcare from your family to fund a police state.

Unconscionable.
https://x.com/Ilhan/status/1940454623510515766

You know a bill is great when a handful of Republicans won't pass it, unlike the May 2023 Ceiling Uncap & Megaspend they voted for.

Very easy on Xiden, very tough on Trump.

This bill disqualifies tons of immigrants from medicaid, which is why GOPe is so dead set against it.

Some Woo editorial.

JD Vance
@JDVance
GOP Congressman just texted me:

“I was undecided on the bill but then I watched Hakeem Jeffries performance and now I’m a firm yes.”
https://x.com/JDVance/status/1940744435874324894

Misc says

If you think they were going to go after rich Americans---you'd be wrong.

There's an easy way to go after the rich that they would barely notice. The Dems are just retarded. Get rid of the SS payroll cap. If you make $500k you pay all the SS out of your check. It doesn't stop at $160k income or whatever it is. You still get SS but when you retire you still only get the max you would have not more because you paid more.

Not redoing the math but that would roughly put about $60-100B into the SS fund ANNUALLY. If you were making $500k before getting SS, you're not going to even notice the difference. You should have invested and have plenty of your own money for retirement. And you still get your SS, the payout is just capped when you retire.

The Dems keep saying tax the rich. How? There's never a plan. It would kind of hurt my family, but 6.2% or whatever it is to SS is pretty trivial on about $200k for us once the cap hits, at least for the wife. There's easily 3M families in this position. Our hit would be about $13k. Sucks, but I want SS to be there when my kids and grand kids are older.

Also for the work freaks, guys like Fauci that had a do nothing job. At 59-1/2 you cannot receive a pay increase in government. I'm talking any position. You're paid enough, you have medical and a pension. I don't know the numbers I'd guess that's in the 100's of billions. You can retire and start a business or something, but you can't just keep doing a job that likely requires nothing at that age except being present.

The reality is with tech, is it outpaces the knowledge of the person. So if you want to work to 70-75, you're actually more inefficient even with knowledge through the years. Why should the government pay you a high salary?

My infallibly wrong future predictor was right for a change. Dr. Strange Trump got it by on razor thin margins as a show of prestidigitation force.

Trump to sign the BBB on July 4th as planned.

PP defunded
USAID defunded
Tax cuts permanent
Big Tip & Overtime deduction
ICE / DHS funding beefed up to levels necessary to deport millions.

Never Bet Against Trump.

Now watch Trump be a wise guy and veto the bill.....

I hopium so.

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1940923975514706106?s=46

^^^^ if true, and I’m not conceding it is, it will mirror the Dems stranglehold on US politics from the 30’s to the 70’s where the only Republican president was Eisenhower and the Dems hel the Senate and the House almost the entire time.

Dems replace Big Beautiful Bill with their Big Beautiful Bullshit. Weeping on the steps of Congress? This is what I voted for.

When Trump fixes the Federal elections with paper ballots and same day on site and hand counted on site ID voting, most of them in the Fed elections will be gone without the empowerment of election fraud. They have eighteen months more of subversion and they know it. The state voting will follow when the corruption is broadcast. I imagine quite a few seeing the end is near will be jumping ship to State's evidence as well to avoid their harvests of greed and corruption. Maybe all the chronic bullshit of 'arrests' will become a material reality.

Eighteen months is still a long time to do damage, but they may fragment in the meantime. One would hopium. Hail Satan!

OK, let's see what's in it:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/sledgehammer-friday-july-4-2025-c

Immigration got the biggest boost. A $30 billion allocation supercharged ICE’s operational footprint, including for expedited removals, detention expansion, and interjurisdictional deputization under the INA, allowing local law enforcement officers to be deputized as federal immigration agents.

A $10 billion “State Border Security Reinforcement Fund” allows states to apply for substantial grants to fund their own enforcement activities—provided they cooperate with federal priorities. This embeds a federalism-based enforcement surge within DHS control, allowing the Executive to co-opt state forces without surrendering state supremacy.

States that don’t cooperate won’t get paid. Sorry.

OK, that sounds good for US citizen wages.

The bill mandates expansion of biometric tracking for aliens at their entry, including DNA sampling, broadening the executive branch’s surveillance and identification net for both lawful and unlawful entrants.

Those who come illegally should have their DNA sampled, but it seems rude to legitimate visitors. I would not put up with that as a tourist.

First, conservative critics complain that OBBBA blows the budget. The truth is, the bill contains a historically high level of cuts— nearly $1.5 trillion. The larger, offsetting ‘increases’ everyone is complaining about are estimates provided by the CBO, which is restricted by various rules that preclude it from accounting for things like increased tax revenues from economic growth or tariff earnings.

In other words, the CBO’s estimate is a bad guess, and the Administration adheres to its claim of a budget surplus.

I'd like to see irrefutable cuts to the federal budget, like the old Trump used to call for.

Second, liberal critics hysterically cry that it cuts Medicare for the neediest citizens! But all anyone has to do is read the bill, and that lie is easily exposed. All the bill includes are commonsense tweaks to eligibility for welfare, like minimal work requirements for able-bodied recipients. The reason you’ll never see any actual bill language quoted by critics is because it’s simply not there.

Interesting. Maybe it is simply not true that it cuts Medicare.

What the DemonDems are also weeping about is the BBB funding for FBI and DOJ to continue investigations and indictments. They were starting to run on dry.

WookieMan says

There's an easy way to go after the rich that they would barely notice.

You wanna increase tax on just the super-rich ???

Just put a cap of like $10 million 0n charity donations.