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Tucker didn't say ties. He said "The real answer is, Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of intel services, probably not American...this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Nobody's allowed to say that foreign government is: Israel"

What is the evidence for this?

Everything suggests that Epstein was Clinton-CIA.

PanicanDemoralizer says

Tucker didn't say ties. He said "The real answer is, Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of intel services, probably not American...this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Nobody's allowed to say that foreign government is: Israel"

What is the evidence for this?

Everything suggests that Epstein was Clinton-CIA.

he brought up evidence later on. you can listen to whole thing on youtube. his money, his connections, etc…

Here it is. Tucker is only saying what every thinking person already knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INX5gmnHDcg

Panican:

Where’s your proof to back up your slander that Tucker Carlson is on the payroll of Qatar? I’ve asked a number of times and every time you go into a fit of panic and clam up. Wassup Mr. Panican?

RayAmerica says

Where’s your proof to back up your slander that Tucker Carlson is on the payroll of Qatar? I’ve asked a number of times and every time you go into a fit of panic and clam up. Wassup Mr. Panican?

I've done this already, in fact just last night. Go look in the Epstein thread, the Omeed Malik (Edit: Brainfart for the Pulse Nightclub shooter) thread, etc.

RayAmerica says

Here it is. Tucker is only saying what every thinking person already knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INX5gmnHDcg

Nope. No evidence. Just claims.

People have repeated hypothesis and claims so often, they think they are true and proven. Epstein's best and clearest circumstantial ties are to the CIA.

Likely the intelligence agencies of US, Great Britain, and Israel are all connected at hip. So, he likely worked for all of them at the same time.

But some people just hate them so much that they have to blame the juice, for everything, everytime.

From https://patrick.net/post/1380690/2024-01-03-epstein-list-delayed?start=454#comment-2188654

EPSTEIN WAS MOSSAD. THE EVIDENCE:

🇮🇱 Former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe said Epstein ran a Mossad honeypot operation after being recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell.

🇮🇱 Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, Robert Maxwell, was a Mossad spy.

🇮🇱 Maxwell’s business partner was Charles Bronfman, a co-founder of the Mega Group.

🇮🇱 The Mega Group is an exclusive club of Jewish billionaires funding pro-Israel causes.

🇮🇱 Maria Farmer, the first victim to report Epstein, said his entire network was run by Jewish supremacists who racially abused her and that the operation was led by the Mega Group.

🇮🇱 One of its co-founders, Victoria’s Secret owner Les Wexner, gave Epstein his $77 million Manhattan townhouse—used as the hub of his blackmail ring.

🇮🇱 Wexner was Epstein’s only known client and the apparent source of his wealth.

🇮🇱 Epstein got his job at Bear Stearns in 1970 through Alan Greenberg, a Mega Group member, despite having no background beyond teaching.

🇮🇱 Mega Group member Ronald Lauder is president of the World Jewish Congress and a major donor to Netanyahu’s Likud party.

🇮🇱 Epstein’s lawyer and longtime friend, Alan Dershowitz, is a staunch Zionist, author of *The Case for Israel*, and was even considered to represent Israel at the ICJ.

🇮🇱 Epstein had multiple meetings with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak in his New York apartment.

🇮🇱 Epstein and Barak were business partners in a tech company—staffed entirely by ex-Israeli intelligence operatives.

🇮🇱 Barak says he was first introduced to Epstein by ex-Israeli PM Shimon Peres, who also gave the eulogy at Robert Maxwell’s funeral.

🇮🇱 Wexner’s foundation paid Barak $2 million in 2004 for undisclosed “research.” The pattern is undeniable: Epstein’s blackmail operation was an Israeli intelligence asset, backed by powerful Zionist figures with deep ties to the Israeli government.

I'm pretty sure Israel was involved, but I'm not sure it was only Israel.

I’m pretty sure America was involved, so even if Israel’s or Britain’s or any one else’s CIA equivalents were involved, Americans ought to clean their own house before blaming foreigners.

PeopleUnited says

I’m pretty sure America was involved, so even if Israel’s or Britain’s or any one else’s CIA equivalents were involved, Americans ought to clean their own house before blaming foreigners.

only sunlight can clear shadows. if Trump refuses to release then it’ll be shadows.

Fortwaye says

only sunlight can clear shadows. if Trump refuses to release then it’ll be shadows.

My point exactly. Quit blaming other countries for an American problem. The thread is ridiculous to implicate the joos when no acting American authority for over two decades now has been willing to disclose the information of Epstein’s honey pot program. There are those that have asserted that there are many false accusations that the release of evidence would help to exonerate. But your American government, elected by the people, refuses to release any information. So don’t blame anyone else. It’s an American problem.

But while we piss around talking about some creepy old guys taking advantage of young girls desperate for money (a tale as old as time) the globalists are preparing their next moves In the quest for a totalitarian world government facilitated by a digital gulag and the most sophisticated deception propaganda and divide and conquer strategy in the history of the planet.

So maybe let’s keep that in perspective.

What Trump actually said on the campaign trail:

What if the Epstein files are mostly fraudulent or BS, but make the FBI/CIA look awful - so awful it's a threat to national security?

Like JFK, the release of files will not mean anything.

If they turn out to be a nothing burger, or don't contain any Mossad links, the Ryan Dawsons of the world will scream that Trump/Bondi/Biden just deleted the evidence.

They've already made up their mind and it's non-falsifiable to them.

PanicanDemoralizer says

What if the Epstein files are mostly fraudulent or BS, but make the FBI/CIA look awful - so awful it's a threat to national security?

Like JFK, the release of files will not mean anything.

If they turn out to be a nothing burger, or don't contain any Mossad links, the Ryan Dawsons of the world will scream that Trump/Bondi/Biden just deleted the evidence.

They've already made up their mind and it's non-falsifiable to them.

only one way to find out. how did Epstein go from zero to hero with no skills and got connected to the elites, while funded by very wealthy jews and israel?

If we all take a deep breath and really think about the Epstein lore in a more practical sense. When it comes to him keeping a list for black mailing purposes.
He would have been raided and taken down long long before he had charges brought against him.

Our government was quite good and capable at bringing racketeering and extortion charges against someone, redacting every line on every page on every scrap of evidence presented in the trial. As well as holding someone in a pretrial state, for so long, that the public moves on and loses interest or memory of the case. I don't think Epstein could have operated with impunity for so long if that's what he was doing.

Also the FAA requires you to have flight logs and passenger manifests. There's just no way around it, you have to. I bet Trump has a list of everyone that has flown on his private Jets, even the journos.

I'm sure he was a playground for the rich and powerful around the world, but I think he had a more beneficial relationship with those visitors, than he was trying to extort them. He would have been taken out, he had way too many powerful people playing in his playground. An extorted threat against one, would have been a threat against them all.

Not to say that all of the rumors about his operation hasn't sent those same people into a panic mode that has been just as concerned about the possibility of a list as everyone else. Obama and Clinton could have created that rumor to get all of the rich and powerful on board to stop Trump in 2015.
Let's not forget most of what we think we know about Epstein, came from Q. Which I'm convinced was a psyopp by Obamas deep state to sew rumors and division in Trump's campaign and base.

If you recall the media did everything they could to get Trump to admit he supports what Q is doing or endorse it, so they could have done a reverse UNO card on that, and claim Trump made it all up. Never happened, Trump has never endorsed any of the Q'tard related nonsense. Even while his base was hero worshiping Trump for working so closely with Q to make America great again. Trump knew it was made up shit. I didn't understand why he didn't disavow it more than he did. But I guess let it be used to build his base, which was a unintended consequence of the Q lore. I don't think the Q fabricators intended.

Tenpoundbass says

Let's not forget most of what we think we know about Epstein, came from Q. Which I'm convinced was a psyopp by Obamas deep state to sew rumors and division in Trump's campaign and base.

Yep.

The "Epstein Client List" refers to a hypothesized list of clients allegedly involved in Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking activities, which gained traction as part of conspiracy theories, including those tied to the QAnon movement. The idea suggests Epstein maintained a record of prominent individuals he blackmailed or provided with underage girls, but no such list has been confirmed to exist. The U.S. Justice Department and FBI, in a July 2025 memo, stated that an exhaustive review found no evidence of an incriminating "client list" or blackmail involving prominent figures, contradicting earlier speculation.

The notion of the list was notably promoted by U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, who, in a February 2025 Fox News interview, claimed such a document was “sitting on my desk” for review, raising expectations among conservative influencers and conspiracy theorists. This statement was later walked back by the Justice Department and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who clarified that Bondi was referring to general Epstein case files, not a specific client list. The Trump administration, including figures like FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino, had previously fueled speculation about Epstein’s activities, with some right-wing influencers and media personalities, such as Alex Jones and Jack Posobiec, amplifying the narrative. Posts on X also show that figures like Rep. Tim Burchett and others claimed Congress or individuals like Bill Gates opposed the release of such a list, though these claims lack verified evidence.

The absence of a confirmed list has led to criticism from conservative circles, with some accusing Bondi of misleading the public, while others, like Elon Musk, mocked the retraction with social media posts. Despite the hype, the Justice Department’s findings align with earlier reports that Epstein’s financial client list, such as those involving Les Wexner or Leon Black, was not as extensive as rumored and did not directly implicate them in trafficking.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/FEMV9Aq5gndos7NqVYTd7D7F8

Trump is probably right when he compares it to the Steel Dossier.

These rumors have been repeated so often that the existence of a "Client List" is taken for granted, but as Grok notes and Tenpoundbass mentioned it's all from the Q crap.

As for who Ghislaine was procuring underage girls for... how about Epstein himself? That certainly is well attested.

For over 20 years, investigative journalist Nick Bryant has been exposing the global sex trafficking of underage children. He has also been writing about Jeffrey Epstein’s political blackmail operation involving over ‘1,000 underage children’ for years.

Bryant is interviewed here … very informative:

https://rumble.com/v6w2i8g-bermas-epstein-covered-up...-what-now-with-nick-bryant.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

RayAmerica says

For over 20 years, investigative journalist Nick Bryant has been exposing the global sex trafficking of underage children. He has also been writing about Jeffrey Epstein’s political blackmail operation involving over ‘1,000 underage children’ for years.

Bryant is interviewed here … very informative:

https://rumble.com/v6w2i8g-bermas-epstein-covered-up...-what-now-with-nick-bryant.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

thanks Ray, will watch after church today

I'm done with the rumor mill and the whole "Meme of drawing lines between pinned sticky note with crazy eyed man".

At this point it's all peeing on a Moscow Hotel Bed.

Where's the beef?

Trump’s favorite show FOX & Friends are not backing off on the Trump Administration’s handling of the Epstein’s cover-up.

Virtually no one with an ounce of morality and brain matter knows wholeheartedly that there were hundreds of crimes committed against underage children and they are demanding justice. This is not going away, and it shouldn’t.

What is more evil than the exploitation and abuse of innocent children?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/watch-fox-friends-hosts-urge-trump-provide-answers/

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RayAmerica says

Trump’s favorite show FOX & Friends are not backing off on the Trump Administration’s handling of the Epstein’s cover-up.

Virtually no one with an ounce of morality and brain matter knows wholeheartedly that there were hundreds of crimes committed against underage children and they are demanding justice. This is not going away, and it shouldn’t.

What is more evil than the exploitation and abuse of innocent children?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/watch-fox-friends-hosts-urge-trump-provide-answers/

Fox promoting anything that can hurt Trump? Why would Paul Ryan do that?
https://www.foxcorporation.com/management/board-of-directors/paul-d-ryan/

RayPalestine says

What is more evil than the exploitation and abuse of innocent children?

Making up stories about it and falsely accusing innocent people of rape or child abuse. And those fingers you are pointing? When you point the finger at someone else, three are pointing back at you. You have Epstein derangement syndrome to go along with your Zionist derangement syndrome. You might as well have Trump derangement syndrome too because it will help you understand what you have become. Come back to reality before it is too late.

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fellas please let’s forgive one another and move on like Christ forgave us. Why fight over secondary issues with one another when it’s just a point of debate, not point of separation.

I don’t think accusing the brethren is a “point of debate.”

When some asshole on the internet accuses people from a country half way across the world of being responsible for the sins of one man, and then starts a thread on it, in which he goes on to accuse two others he has never met of moral turpitude for expressing their opinion it is not a “point of debate” but a baseless attack on the character of a nation he apparently hates, and two people he has never met. So yeah, if he can stop accusing and repent of his own sins we can debate. But until then he can stew in his own vile thoughts.

Fortwaye says

RayAmerica says

For over 20 years, investigative journalist Nick Bryant has been exposing the global sex trafficking of underage children. He has also been writing about Jeffrey Epstein’s political blackmail operation involving over ‘1,000 underage children’ for years.

Bryant is interviewed here … very informative:

https://rumble.com/v6w2i8g-bermas-epstein-covered-up...-what-now-with-nick-bryant.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

thanks Ray, will watch after church today

wow that was a lot of eye opening info. now i see that theyll never let it public. implicates too many

https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1942721733922021632

Is President Trump Being Blackmailed By Israel To Shut Down The Epstein Investigation & Cover-Up Mossad Involvement?

Israel Israel Israel!

Israel is a bigger dysfunctional mess than our own Congress and Senate. Bibbi is having a hell of time trying to stay ahead of members of his own government trying to take him down through bogus investigations and lawfare like Trump here is going through.

Are they evil Zionist too, or is Bibbi the evil Zionist? Which faction is trying to dominate and control the world? China, Russia and the USA all thinks our Shit don't stink and must put our thumbs on the scale around the world. Just look at the damage our USAID has done to sovereignty around the world. Even the EU NGOs are all out to play God with other countries. Why is it only Israel gets called out for it?

But back to the Israel infighting who's the good guys and who's the bad guys, in your opinion?

People just put October attack out of their minds, when they attack Israel for bombing Hamas, and Iraq? Something came to ahead that was over looked. For decades Israel was forced to show constraint in retaliation for suicide bombings, missle attacks, and mass shootings. The October attack was on a whole other level that Israel couldn't ignore, let alone the whole world.

This is coming from a guy that will call out a shitty Jew for what he is where I see them. Not all Jews have to be persecuted because they are Jews, and the notion that Israel somehow is running shit up in here is preposterous.