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This is not a uniquely "Obama" initiative. Back in rural Georgia I remember sometimes hearing about people being shut down for not meeting various codes. One lady was my friend's sister, who was selling goat cheese and milk. This was a while back under a Republican administration. Technically speaking this is not originating in Justice, they are FDA operations. They are doing what they are charged with doing. But please continue looking for Commies behind every bush, it is entertaining.

Over in China they've got a big problem with rice tainted with cadmium, "a heavy metal associated with high blood pressure, fluid accumulation in the lungs and a potentially fatal softening of the bones."

I'm sure Ray is all for the free market working over there too. After all, there is a willing buyer and seller, and it's the rice consumers fault for not checking their food for cadmium.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/02/16/new-food-scare-some-cadmium-with-your-rice/

shrekgrinch says

Then why is the Justice Department and not the FDA doing this?

Man, you really don't care about facts do you? You just make up whatever twisted story fits your twisted world view and type it out.

shrekgrinch says

Then why is the Justice Department and not the FDA doing this?

Where is Obama mentioned in TFA?

Police at least in my part of the country do not run their own kangaroo courts. It's been my understanding from civics which is a bit dated, that government agencies do investigations but criminal prosecutions are the province of Justice.

Raw milk is such a "hippy" thing it amazes me Ray/Shrek are so interested in it. Some people pay up to 10-12 times the price of pasteurized just to get their fix. Historically the center of raw milk production has been California, we even defined 3 grades of it. I find your sudden granola conversion hilarious.

bob2356 says

complaining about the FDA doing it’s job.

The FDA is doing such a wonderful job. Take food labels for just one glaring example:

Food producers are allowed by the FDA to use a very misleading labeling system when it comes to disclosing fat in a product. The FDA allows fat to be labeled by percentage against the weight of a product. In order for the consumer to get the real percentage, they have to look at the calories per serving and the amount of calories of FAT per serving, then do long division in order to determine the REAL percentage of fat for the product. Example: if a product has 100 calories per serving and has 50 calories of fat per serving, the product is 50% (artery clogging) fat. And yet, the product may state that it is "97% fat free." Don't believe it? 2% Milk is thought to contain only 2% milk fat, when in reality, it typically contains 120 calories per serving with 45 calories from fat ... making it 37.5% fat. Yet the American people have been duped into believing they are consuming milk that is 98% fat free. This is true for practically every food label that contains fat ... and the FDA is "doing its job." LOL

I can't tolerate dairy well, but I'm sympathetic with the raw milk consumers. They want quality milk, and they are getting it, but it is maybe slightly risky. For the big milk producers the standard is much lower (I'll spare you the disgusting details) so with the lower quality mass produced milk, that has god knows what in it, it must be pasteurized for safety reasons.

The human body does not make the enzyme lactase after about age three. Lactase is necessary to digest lactose. (milk sugar in dairy products)
No mammal produces lactase after it weans. This seems to indicate that consuming milk and dairy products is virtually unnatural, not to mention the obscenely elevated and problematic fat content.
Lactose intolerance has been known to cause painful intestinal bleeding in some individuals.
Got indigestion?

mikey says

Got indigestion?

If I do, it's clearly the President's fault. ;)

RayAmerica says

bob2356 says

complaining about the FDA doing it’s job.

The FDA is doing such a wonderful job. Take food labels for just one glaring example:

RayAmerica says

Maybe we should “pasteurize” the medical community, being they kill about 225,000 every year in America due to malpractice, wrong medicine, etc.?? How about “pasteurizing” the alcohol industry? Every year on America’s highways 20,000+ innocent people get slaughtered due entirely to drunk drivers. What do you think Ducky?

What possible relevance does this stuff have to the post about the Amish violating the law in DC against selling raw milk? It's a simple concept that even you should grasp Ray. The Amish knowingly violated the law. The FDA/Justice department upheld the law. What part don't you understand?

You can't have it both ways. If the FDA had allowed this to continue with impunity then you would have screamed "OBAMA DOESN"T ENFORCE THE LAWS". Your 24/7 obsession with Obama just isn't healthy.

Using swat team tactics on an Amish farm is pretty silly, but that seems to be the modus operandi for all forms of law enforcement actions no matter how trivial in the US these days. A leftover mentality from the neocon Bush/Cheney years that I had hoped Obama would do something about.

Hey Ray, why don't you post on Obama's failure to do anything about heavy handed law enforcement and all pervasive government obsession with keeping public records secret. That's a real failing (one of many) of the Obama administration. Naw, never happened. Conservative love secrecy and heavy handed law enforcement.

bob2356 says

Hey Ray, why don’t you post on Obama’s failure to do anything about heavy handed law enforcement and all pervasive government obsession with keeping public records secret. That’s a real failing (one of many) of the Obama administration.

Great idea. But I have posted repeatedly on Obama's lack of transparency http://patrick.net/?p=500645 ... something he repeatedly campaigned on. As far as "heavy handed law enforcement," I would say, to use your words "using swat team tactics on an Amish farm" would constitute heavy handed law enforcement, wouldn't you agree? Another point you might consider; Obama's war expansion tactics in the Middle East. The Left contantly attacked Bush for the same tactics, but fell strangely silent when Obama took over and kept the same Neocon policies.

So back to my original question. The Amish knowingly violated the law, FDA/Justice stepped in and stopped it. Why is that some kind of failing for the Obama government? I have no trouble imagining what would you have posted if the "Obama government" had ignored a clear violation of the law. You can't have it both ways.

Where are your posts about the lack of transparency in the "Bush government"? You don't even begin to see the problem with your obsession with criticizing Obama for doing many of the same things that you approved of Bush doing do you? They are both pretty poor presidents in my opinion. Bush marginally worse just because his entire administration was so secretive, vicious, and mean spirited.

bob2356 says

Using swat team tactics

RayAmerica says

I would say, to use your words “using swat team tactics on an Amish farm” would constitute heavy handed law enforcement, wouldn’t you agree?

How in the world is a surprise inspection, followed by going to court a "swat team" tactic?

Well, some people are mad as hell and simply aren't gonna take it any more. They're not sure what "it" is, but a quick search can turn up anything.

Obama's responsible for gas prices (even tho they were higher under Bush's second term, even without factoring in inflation), the recession (created long before Obama took office), bailouts (Bush era), the extensions of bush era tax cuts to the super wealthy, and many, many more. Personally, I blame Obama for the lousy cell service in rural areas.

Of course, I shall now add to my list of Obamatravesties all things milk related, including that I can't find Strawberry Quick on the shelves of my grocery store. That's simply not acceptable.

Trolls are angry little buggers who simply want to say nasty stuff so that they can create drama - and when they're unoriginal and unable to begin a thread that people will post to, they hijack others. If they're placed on "ignore" and truly ignored, the forum is a lot more fun.

Or we can continue to respond to silliness. 'sup to ya'll.

MarkInSF says

How in the world is a surprise inspection, followed by going to court a “swat team” tactic?

You'll have to ask "Bob" that one. LOL

MarkInSF says

bob2356 says

Using swat team tactics

RayAmerica says

I would say, to use your words “using swat team tactics on an Amish farm” would constitute heavy handed law enforcement, wouldn’t you agree?

How in the world is a surprise inspection, followed by going to court a “swat team” tactic?

The article I read originally about this, I don't remember who published it, said that they went in with a police team, which I thought was pretty surprising. It would appear that was incorrect information. Mea Culpa.

Hey Ray, want to answer my original question?