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HeadSet
2025 Jul 12, 1:32pm
HeadSet
2025 Jul 12, 1:32pm
The_Deplorable says
I worked with pro style surveillance cameras. They record in a proprietary codec that cannot be edited. The original can be copied to a format like MP4 that can be edited, but no serious investigator or court will accept a video that is not in that original uneditable format. Even so, it is easy to tell when an MP4 (or other codec) has been modified. I presume they determined that Adobe Premiere was used by looking at compression artifacts. Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired
I worked with pro style surveillance cameras. They record in a proprietary codec that cannot be edited. The original can be copied to a format like MP4 that can be edited, but no serious investigator or court will accept a video that is not in that original uneditable format. Even so, it is easy to tell when an MP4 (or other codec) has been modified. I presume they determined that Adobe Premiere was used by looking at compression artifacts. Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.
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WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 3:18pm
WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 3:18pm
HeadSet says
You'd be surprised. What you say is correct, but there's incompetence everywhere. Remember a lot of jobs are nepotism. They might not have the qualifications to understand what you just wrote. Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.
Put this way in a realm I know. Everyone likely has goofed off on a drum set. That doesn't make them a drummer. It takes thousands of hours to know what you're doing. Video editing is way more complicated than the average person knows. I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.
Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.
You'd be surprised. What you say is correct, but there's incompetence everywhere. Remember a lot of jobs are nepotism. They might not have the qualifications to understand what you just wrote. Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.
Put this way in a realm I know. Everyone likely has goofed off on a drum set. That doesn't make them a drummer. It takes thousands of hours to know what you're doing. Video editing is way more complicated than the average person knows. I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.
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Patrick
2025 Jul 12, 4:39pm
Patrick
2025 Jul 12, 4:39pm
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/jeffrey-epsteins-brother-breaks-silence
Mark Epstein, brother of the late Jeffrey Epstein, dismissed a bombshell memo from the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation that declares the disgraced financier’s 2019 death a suicide, accusing the government of covering up the truth. ...
“Every time they say something or try to do something to quash that he most likely was murdered, they put their foot further in their mouth,” Mark Epstein said in an interview with NewsNation host Chris Cuomo. “When Kash Patel came out with that statement, I laughed at how stupid it was.” ...
On Tuesday, Trump himself brushed off questions about Epstein during an exchange with reporters.
“Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy’s been talked about for years,” Trump said, while taking questions during a Cabinet meeting.
“You’re asking – we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things, and are people still talking about this guy? This creep? That is unbelievable. I mean, I can’t believe you’re asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we’re having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.”
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The_Deplorable
2025 Jul 12, 5:11pm
WookieMan says
Nonsense. The metadata of the video proved that the Epstein prison video
is a fabrication.
"All videos are doctored."
Nonsense. The metadata of the video proved that the Epstein prison video
is a fabrication.
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HeadSet
2025 Jul 12, 7:05pm
HeadSet
2025 Jul 12, 7:05pm
WookieMan says
WookieMan says
What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.
Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.
WookieMan says
I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.
What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.
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WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 9:45pm
WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 9:45pm
HeadSet says
Not my state. Everywhere. You guys have too much faith in people or assume they truly know what they're doing. I can and have built websites for small companies. Doesn't mean I know the details of it at all and don't know much of anything about website building. But I can make one that looks better than the pros.
I can record a drum track with 16 mics in my home. I go by what sounds good. I don't care about the file format or anything.
I've edited plenty of video. Doesn't mean I know what I'm doing. Most don't know the technical details and just use software and make it look good. 90% of TV stations don't have "experts" they have people that can edit. My SIL was broadcast and metrology dual major and worked for a network. We visited the studio with the kids. Everyone was a moron there. Where talking a big 4 network. Not gonna dox myself.
What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.
Not my state. Everywhere. You guys have too much faith in people or assume they truly know what they're doing. I can and have built websites for small companies. Doesn't mean I know the details of it at all and don't know much of anything about website building. But I can make one that looks better than the pros.
I can record a drum track with 16 mics in my home. I go by what sounds good. I don't care about the file format or anything.
I've edited plenty of video. Doesn't mean I know what I'm doing. Most don't know the technical details and just use software and make it look good. 90% of TV stations don't have "experts" they have people that can edit. My SIL was broadcast and metrology dual major and worked for a network. We visited the studio with the kids. Everyone was a moron there. Where talking a big 4 network. Not gonna dox myself.
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2025 Jul 12, 9:51pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2025 Jul 12, 9:51pm
Maybe Bongino will step down and Kash can get a better deputy that knows how to run things. That's really the deputy job and Dan seems to be in way over his head. Maybe pick a former FIB employee who left as a whistle blower who knows how things work. And then they can circle back and give a more detailed explanation as to why they believe what they are saying.
All the people who collected the original evidence, etc., in one big transparency media event. Get into the details. Were they unable to identify any of the Johns and if not why not. ETC. ETC. ETC.
Today I heard someone say:
Democrats think Democracy is whatever it is that they like. Republicans think transparency is whatever it is that they like.
To me it looks like one of the biggest gaslighting events I've ever seen except maybe the covid cover up.
All the people who collected the original evidence, etc., in one big transparency media event. Get into the details. Were they unable to identify any of the Johns and if not why not. ETC. ETC. ETC.
Today I heard someone say:
Democrats think Democracy is whatever it is that they like. Republicans think transparency is whatever it is that they like.
To me it looks like one of the biggest gaslighting events I've ever seen except maybe the covid cover up.
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WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 10:39pm
WookieMan
2025 Jul 12, 10:39pm
Patrick says
I don't know. I think Trump promised it and they got in and there's nothing there. Bondi slipped up and said the files were on her desk. What files? Video? Paper documentation? Or just files of Epstein and Maxwell trafficking people? They were already found guilty. It literally might have just been for themselves. Kash and Bongino are probably like, shit, we can't deliver.
I have no issue looking at young women and girls of a young age, clothed. Stops there. I think that most men are in this camp. There are plenty of 22 year old legal hotties out there. Outside of STD potential they know their game in the bed. Most the people on the potential "list" have money. They didn't get their money being stupid and risking jail time screwing minors when you can just walk onto a college campus or bar.
Looks like they both caved and sold out at the first opportunity.
I don't know. I think Trump promised it and they got in and there's nothing there. Bondi slipped up and said the files were on her desk. What files? Video? Paper documentation? Or just files of Epstein and Maxwell trafficking people? They were already found guilty. It literally might have just been for themselves. Kash and Bongino are probably like, shit, we can't deliver.
I have no issue looking at young women and girls of a young age, clothed. Stops there. I think that most men are in this camp. There are plenty of 22 year old legal hotties out there. Outside of STD potential they know their game in the bed. Most the people on the potential "list" have money. They didn't get their money being stupid and risking jail time screwing minors when you can just walk onto a college campus or bar.
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stfu
2025 Jul 13, 3:41am
What's missing from Trump's official issues list?
21) Bomb Israels' enemies
21) Bomb Israels' enemies
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clambo
2025 Jul 13, 6:23am
Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike.
How would a person who wanted Epstein dead accomplish it? He or she (Hillary?) would have to pay a gazillion bucks to the guards to open the cell and turn off cameras, and of course, keep their mouths shut.
How would the loser guards hide that bribe? Have any of you guys tried to sneak $10,000+ into a bank account?
Would those loser guards keep quiet or would they start flaunting their new wealth?
Would the people who wanted Epstein locked up not have spies observing the guards' every move?
If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?
Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?
If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.
The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.
Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.
I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.
The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.
Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.
How would a person who wanted Epstein dead accomplish it? He or she (Hillary?) would have to pay a gazillion bucks to the guards to open the cell and turn off cameras, and of course, keep their mouths shut.
How would the loser guards hide that bribe? Have any of you guys tried to sneak $10,000+ into a bank account?
Would those loser guards keep quiet or would they start flaunting their new wealth?
Would the people who wanted Epstein locked up not have spies observing the guards' every move?
If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?
Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?
If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.
The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.
Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.
I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.
The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.
Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.
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PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 8:10am
PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 8:10am
clambo says
clambo says
Very good points Clambo, I touched on some of this earlier in the thread, but what you are saying is the accusations don’t pass the sniff test. It’s seems you are exactly right. People (including the girls) are being protected from embarrassment for their disgusting sex lives, but that doesn’t mean there is evidence enough to prosecute a long list of sexual deviants for statutory crimes. And if the girls (now long since Who have become adults perhaps with kids of their own) don’t want to testify they should not have to. So who is going to testify what happens behind closed doors if not the John or the Jane? And if the girls don’t want the videos released then that is their right as well. This is a disgusting chapter of American history, but can we put it to rest already?
Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike
clambo says
If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?
Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?
If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.
The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.
Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.
I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.
The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.
Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.
Very good points Clambo, I touched on some of this earlier in the thread, but what you are saying is the accusations don’t pass the sniff test. It’s seems you are exactly right. People (including the girls) are being protected from embarrassment for their disgusting sex lives, but that doesn’t mean there is evidence enough to prosecute a long list of sexual deviants for statutory crimes. And if the girls (now long since Who have become adults perhaps with kids of their own) don’t want to testify they should not have to. So who is going to testify what happens behind closed doors if not the John or the Jane? And if the girls don’t want the videos released then that is their right as well. This is a disgusting chapter of American history, but can we put it to rest already?
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Tenpoundbass
2025 Jul 13, 8:24am
Tenpoundbass
2025 Jul 13, 8:24am
Trump should have released his statement he made last night months ago.
To be honest, Trump can't do much and will continue to be hamstrung and usurped at every turn, until the issues he stated that he is more focused on is addressed.
He has to beat them(the Cabal) Obama, Clintons, Biden's, weaponized DOJ, CIA, Judges, at crimes that were directed at Trump, before all of the other truths will ever come out. Trump is tied more closer to the truth, with issued that directly pointed and affected him. He can sink into that truth. Chasing the Epstein lore has too much speculation and hearsay.
He should have made that announcement on day one.
To be honest, Trump can't do much and will continue to be hamstrung and usurped at every turn, until the issues he stated that he is more focused on is addressed.
He has to beat them(the Cabal) Obama, Clintons, Biden's, weaponized DOJ, CIA, Judges, at crimes that were directed at Trump, before all of the other truths will ever come out. Trump is tied more closer to the truth, with issued that directly pointed and affected him. He can sink into that truth. Chasing the Epstein lore has too much speculation and hearsay.
He should have made that announcement on day one.
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Tenpoundbass
2025 Jul 13, 8:30am
Tenpoundbass
2025 Jul 13, 8:30am
Also I don't think it's a coincidence that Obama announced today he's getting back into politics to lead the Democrat party.
He needs to be closer to what spooks are left in the deep state to stop Trump, from prosecuting the crimes he is the victim of.
That will bring down the whole damn house of cards.
Especially when you realize, that everyone has suspected all along since 2015, all of the bad actors in Congress and the alphabet agencies were acting to protect their interest in the Epstein case.
By Trump getting to the bottom of that, the spooks in the Epstein tree will fall out.
He needs to be closer to what spooks are left in the deep state to stop Trump, from prosecuting the crimes he is the victim of.
That will bring down the whole damn house of cards.
Especially when you realize, that everyone has suspected all along since 2015, all of the bad actors in Congress and the alphabet agencies were acting to protect their interest in the Epstein case.
By Trump getting to the bottom of that, the spooks in the Epstein tree will fall out.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 8:30am
PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 8:30am
clambo says
This is what I think. Guiffre was already working as a masseuse or retail clerk or something and was over the AoC.
Then again, this country is full of Girldads who think their 22-year old PharmaRep daughter hasn't banged 100 people from the doctors she visits to conventions she attends to frat boys in college to the football players in HS and the guy in the bar she snuck into at 16
The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.
This is what I think. Guiffre was already working as a masseuse or retail clerk or something and was over the AoC.
Then again, this country is full of Girldads who think their 22-year old PharmaRep daughter hasn't banged 100 people from the doctors she visits to conventions she attends to frat boys in college to the football players in HS and the guy in the bar she snuck into at 16
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Patrick
2025 Jul 13, 9:30am
Patrick
2025 Jul 13, 9:30am
https://ground.news/article/ocasio-cortez-slammed-over-defamatory-trump-jeffrey-epstein-post-sue-aoc-into-bankruptcy
We pretty much know the names already.
What Trump needs to do is release the videos that Epstein collected, with the girls' faces and privates blacked out.
On Friday, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez labeled President Trump a 'rapist' and said this complicates Justice Department matters involving Jeffrey Epstein.
The statement followed Trump's 2023 civil ruling finding him liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll, while he denied rape and faced no criminal charges.
The Trump administration is experiencing internal discord and external pressure regarding disclosures about Epstein, with Attorney General Pam Bondi refusing to provide additional information and a senior FBI official, Dan Bongino, reportedly opposing her stance.
Bill O'Reilly backed Trump’s choice to withhold the names of Epstein’s associates, believing that making those identities public could unfairly harm individuals who are innocent, reflecting Trump’s concern about protecting people from unwarranted damage.
This controversy has deepened political divisions and skepticism about the Epstein files, with some Trump supporters criticizing the president's dismissive stance amid ongoing speculation about his ties to Epstein.
We pretty much know the names already.
What Trump needs to do is release the videos that Epstein collected, with the girls' faces and privates blacked out.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 9:39am
PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 9:39am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
You realize most of those pictures are fake.
This isn't.
Even Snopes had to admit this one is true.
Why?
You realize most of those pictures are fake.
This isn't.
Even Snopes had to admit this one is true.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 Jul 13, 10:36am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 Jul 13, 10:36am
PanicanDemoralizer says
No, I did not. How many are fake and how many are real?
You realize most of those pictures are fake.
No, I did not. How many are fake and how many are real?
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 Jul 13, 10:49am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2025 Jul 13, 10:49am
Is this true? The photo in the Newsweek story below shows the Trump Epstein duo. Photos aside, it appears that Trump did fly on Epstein’s private plane. Why?
"Is Donald Trump Mentioned in Epstein Files?
Trump's name is among those that appears in flight logs for Epstein's private plane. Trump flew on Epstein's private jet several times in the 1990s, mostly between Palm Beach, Florida and New York City, according to flight logs that were released as evidence in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted on sex trafficking charges for helping Epstein abuse underage girls.
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and more—these are just some of the high-profile figures who allegedly flew in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's notorious "Lolita Express" private jet.
Epstein's plane was derisively called the "Lolita Express" by certain media outlets following allegations that it was used to fly underage girls to some of the late financier's properties.
The trial of Ghislaine Maxwell is currently ongoing in Manhattan, New York and the personal pilot of Jeffrey Epstein has given testimony.
Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein FilesREAD MORE Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein Files
For nearly 30 years, Larry Visoski (Lawrence Paul Visoski Jr.) piloted the Boeing 727 that reportedly hosted a spate of famous names which include Britain's Prince Andrew and numerous U.S. senators.
According to The Associated Press, Visoski testified that he never saw evidence of sexual activity on planes as he flew Epstein and his high-profile passengers aboard the two jets he piloted for roughly 1,000 trips between 1991 and 2019.
Trump is also mentioned in a 2016 deposition by Epstein accuser Johanna Sjoberg. She recalled spending several hours with Epstein at Trump's Atlantic City casino. She did not say if she actually met Trump and did not accuse him of any wrongdoing.
A Trump spokesperson told Newsweek in January 2024 that any claims regarding Trump's relationship with Epstein were "thoroughly debunked" by the release of documents.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811
Who Flew on Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' Plane?
Donald J. Trump
Bill Clinton
Kevin Spacey
Chris Tucker
Bill Gates
Prince Andrew
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Violinist Itzhak Perlman
U.S. Sen. John Glenn
Former Senate majority leader George Mitchell
All names have been reported in Associated Press and CNN.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-flew-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-plane-full-list-people-named-1654827
"Is Donald Trump Mentioned in Epstein Files?
Trump's name is among those that appears in flight logs for Epstein's private plane. Trump flew on Epstein's private jet several times in the 1990s, mostly between Palm Beach, Florida and New York City, according to flight logs that were released as evidence in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted on sex trafficking charges for helping Epstein abuse underage girls.
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and more—these are just some of the high-profile figures who allegedly flew in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's notorious "Lolita Express" private jet.
Epstein's plane was derisively called the "Lolita Express" by certain media outlets following allegations that it was used to fly underage girls to some of the late financier's properties.
The trial of Ghislaine Maxwell is currently ongoing in Manhattan, New York and the personal pilot of Jeffrey Epstein has given testimony.
Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein FilesREAD MORE Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein Files
For nearly 30 years, Larry Visoski (Lawrence Paul Visoski Jr.) piloted the Boeing 727 that reportedly hosted a spate of famous names which include Britain's Prince Andrew and numerous U.S. senators.
According to The Associated Press, Visoski testified that he never saw evidence of sexual activity on planes as he flew Epstein and his high-profile passengers aboard the two jets he piloted for roughly 1,000 trips between 1991 and 2019.
Trump is also mentioned in a 2016 deposition by Epstein accuser Johanna Sjoberg. She recalled spending several hours with Epstein at Trump's Atlantic City casino. She did not say if she actually met Trump and did not accuse him of any wrongdoing.
A Trump spokesperson told Newsweek in January 2024 that any claims regarding Trump's relationship with Epstein were "thoroughly debunked" by the release of documents.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811
Who Flew on Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' Plane?
Donald J. Trump
Bill Clinton
Kevin Spacey
Chris Tucker
Bill Gates
Prince Andrew
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Violinist Itzhak Perlman
U.S. Sen. John Glenn
Former Senate majority leader George Mitchell
All names have been reported in Associated Press and CNN.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-flew-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-plane-full-list-people-named-1654827
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The_Deplorable
2025 Jul 13, 10:59am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
You are quoting the liars, the Fake News media.
" https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811
Who Flew on Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' Plane?
Donald J. Trump... All names have been reported in Associated Press and CNN."
You are quoting the liars, the Fake News media.
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PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 12:20pm
PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 12:20pm
Patrick says
If these girls are victims of pedophiles, they should never be subjected to those videos being released, even if they black out the girls faces, voices or body parts. Put yourself in their shoes, if I was a prostitute or rape victim, I would not want it broadcast to the world, not even if it could preserve my anonymity.
Beyond that in he age of deepfake, I’m going to need more than video evidence. We would need at least two witnesses for each crime. My guess is if there were witnesses there would have been prosecutions. But since there are none, my question is where is the crime? We know Epstein exploited young girls and Gislaine helped groom and traffic the girls. But do we know anything more for certain regarding actual crimes?
What Trump needs to do is release the videos that Epstein collected, with the girls' faces and privates blacked out.
If these girls are victims of pedophiles, they should never be subjected to those videos being released, even if they black out the girls faces, voices or body parts. Put yourself in their shoes, if I was a prostitute or rape victim, I would not want it broadcast to the world, not even if it could preserve my anonymity.
Beyond that in he age of deepfake, I’m going to need more than video evidence. We would need at least two witnesses for each crime. My guess is if there were witnesses there would have been prosecutions. But since there are none, my question is where is the crime? We know Epstein exploited young girls and Gislaine helped groom and traffic the girls. But do we know anything more for certain regarding actual crimes?
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PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 12:37pm
PeopleUnited
2025 Jul 13, 12:37pm
Ceffer says
You know we have reached a new level of hysteria from the Panicans when Ceffer drops the conspiracy theories for one second and basically says to everyone, call down and let sleeping dogs lie. If even Ceffer is done with the conspiracy you know the Panicans have jumped the shark. When Ceffer becomes the voice of reason, it’s time to wake up people.
I do not want to 'see' those videos, things are perfectly depressing enough with the state of the state or what can be gleaned of it. Push the devil back down in the hole for the time being.
You know we have reached a new level of hysteria from the Panicans when Ceffer drops the conspiracy theories for one second and basically says to everyone, call down and let sleeping dogs lie. If even Ceffer is done with the conspiracy you know the Panicans have jumped the shark. When Ceffer becomes the voice of reason, it’s time to wake up people.
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Patrick
2025 Jul 13, 1:01pm
Patrick
2025 Jul 13, 1:01pm
I'm starting to think that blackmail has been a staple of both the mafia and government "intelligence" agencies for a very long time.
And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.
And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 4:41pm
PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jul 13, 4:41pm
"God spared Trump's life with a miracle... so he could protect Pedos" - Panicans.
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Ceffer
2025 Jul 13, 5:19pm
Ceffer
2025 Jul 13, 5:19pm
Patrick says
Name stealing and ancient land piracy in the Steppes over centuries gave them their grub stakes. The Pharaohs transformed into the sea faring Phoenicians, who in turn migrated to become Venetian bankers and thence to the Vatican. The Vatican gave the Rothschilds the usury franchise as long as the Vatican itself held ultimate political power (Donation of Constantine).
Mafia was seeded by grub stakes from the Vatican and the Italian black nobles who had been around for centuries. The notion of humble Italian immigrants starting it all was likewise bogus. Criminal franchises are the original franchises and they are financed.
Also, many of the so called American oligarchs arising from humble origins were bullshit aka Carnegies, Rockefellers, Mellons, Vanderbilts, Morgans, DuPonts etc. They also were seeded from Euro bloodline dynastic fortunes and the Dutch and Royal East and West Indies Companies. The bloodlines maintain everything they need for independent living. They have their own banks, estates, farms, vineyards, herds, forests etc. There is probably more purloined gold and treasure lying underground than anybody has ever managed to see above ground.
Modern Intel organizations are offshoots of the Jesuits who are keepers of the horn books. Illuminati Satanic techniques and social magick are old going back to the Sumerians and Pharaohs. They are the psychopathy of alien managers of the human herd operating through bloodlines. They obviously prefer to dominate by threat, intimidation, murder, torture, and the usual and customary blackmails.
And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.
Name stealing and ancient land piracy in the Steppes over centuries gave them their grub stakes. The Pharaohs transformed into the sea faring Phoenicians, who in turn migrated to become Venetian bankers and thence to the Vatican. The Vatican gave the Rothschilds the usury franchise as long as the Vatican itself held ultimate political power (Donation of Constantine).
Mafia was seeded by grub stakes from the Vatican and the Italian black nobles who had been around for centuries. The notion of humble Italian immigrants starting it all was likewise bogus. Criminal franchises are the original franchises and they are financed.
Also, many of the so called American oligarchs arising from humble origins were bullshit aka Carnegies, Rockefellers, Mellons, Vanderbilts, Morgans, DuPonts etc. They also were seeded from Euro bloodline dynastic fortunes and the Dutch and Royal East and West Indies Companies. The bloodlines maintain everything they need for independent living. They have their own banks, estates, farms, vineyards, herds, forests etc. There is probably more purloined gold and treasure lying underground than anybody has ever managed to see above ground.
Modern Intel organizations are offshoots of the Jesuits who are keepers of the horn books. Illuminati Satanic techniques and social magick are old going back to the Sumerians and Pharaohs. They are the psychopathy of alien managers of the human herd operating through bloodlines. They obviously prefer to dominate by threat, intimidation, murder, torture, and the usual and customary blackmails.
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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."
Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20
Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.