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Ukraine Is Totally Fucked: Blank Check Ending
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2023 Feb 21, 3:15pm 2,450 views 67 comments
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socal2
2023 Feb 22, 7:13am
cisTits says
Yeah - Russia is being propped up by Iranian and Chechen jihadis along with North Korean shells!
Sprinkle in some Russian prisoners and Russia truly has a first class military which has been so evident over the past year of embarrassing losses and incompetence.
WookieMan says
Both Ukraine and Russia are shit.
Nope. Russia isn't some satrapy financially propped up by D.C.
Yeah - Russia is being propped up by Iranian and Chechen jihadis along with North Korean shells!
Sprinkle in some Russian prisoners and Russia truly has a first class military which has been so evident over the past year of embarrassing losses and incompetence.
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WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 8:27am
WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 8:27am
cisTits says
I am. Thank you. And housing is the least of your worries outside of CA, ID, TX and TN. Hell even MT. I'm sorry you may be losing money on housing. That doesn't mean everyone else is outside of a few mostly urban regions that drag down national median which is a dick metric. Or maybe you missed the boat and are hoping for a crash to buy. I just make things happen.
Russian and Ukrainians are drunks. I'm kind of surprised many Ukrainians stay sober enough considering I know many, through real estate (look up Ukrainian Village in Chicago). They seem way more disciplined than the US based Russians I've met. Russians in Russia are substantially more drunk from the people I know that have been.
I literally worked with a Ukrainian Oligarch lackey in Chicago, but he was the Chicago "boss" of the neighborhood. They laundered money through real estate. You can discount my knowledge, but I know what I know. You can call everyone a "fluffer" but you don't know what you're talking about.
It's been a while here since someone has been this childish about something they don't know. Russia loses without using nukes. Ukraine got rid of their nukes to make peace. That didn't work. They will join NATO. This will potentially escalate into Europe War 3. It is all saber rattling from Putin. He will die and so will a lot of the oligarchs over there. The people with the oil and gas, the only thing keeping Russia afloat, have a direct line to Putin. The only fluffers are your Russian compatriots. You know this and lash out because you know it's not going Russia's way.
We occupied Iraq and Afghanistan way too long. Initial insurgency we obliterated them and forced the enemy into mountains and other shit holes where they'd occasionally fire RPG or other half assed devices at US troops. One of my groomsmen from my wedding and another friend fought over there for 5 years. Specifically in Afghanistan the locals liked it. It was less dangerous than Chicago. There are more deaths in Ukraine in a year the all of Afghanistan. I guess that's "winning" as Charlie Sheen would say. lol.
Sez one of the 'housing experts' of PatNet.
I am. Thank you. And housing is the least of your worries outside of CA, ID, TX and TN. Hell even MT. I'm sorry you may be losing money on housing. That doesn't mean everyone else is outside of a few mostly urban regions that drag down national median which is a dick metric. Or maybe you missed the boat and are hoping for a crash to buy. I just make things happen.
Russian and Ukrainians are drunks. I'm kind of surprised many Ukrainians stay sober enough considering I know many, through real estate (look up Ukrainian Village in Chicago). They seem way more disciplined than the US based Russians I've met. Russians in Russia are substantially more drunk from the people I know that have been.
I literally worked with a Ukrainian Oligarch lackey in Chicago, but he was the Chicago "boss" of the neighborhood. They laundered money through real estate. You can discount my knowledge, but I know what I know. You can call everyone a "fluffer" but you don't know what you're talking about.
It's been a while here since someone has been this childish about something they don't know. Russia loses without using nukes. Ukraine got rid of their nukes to make peace. That didn't work. They will join NATO. This will potentially escalate into Europe War 3. It is all saber rattling from Putin. He will die and so will a lot of the oligarchs over there. The people with the oil and gas, the only thing keeping Russia afloat, have a direct line to Putin. The only fluffers are your Russian compatriots. You know this and lash out because you know it's not going Russia's way.
We occupied Iraq and Afghanistan way too long. Initial insurgency we obliterated them and forced the enemy into mountains and other shit holes where they'd occasionally fire RPG or other half assed devices at US troops. One of my groomsmen from my wedding and another friend fought over there for 5 years. Specifically in Afghanistan the locals liked it. It was less dangerous than Chicago. There are more deaths in Ukraine in a year the all of Afghanistan. I guess that's "winning" as Charlie Sheen would say. lol.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Feb 22, 9:39am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Feb 22, 9:39am
WookieMan says
Phoenix/AZ, SLC/Provo/UT, Seattle/WA, Las Vegas/Nev, etc….
And housing is the least of your worries outside of CA, ID, TX and TN. Hell even MT.
Phoenix/AZ, SLC/Provo/UT, Seattle/WA, Las Vegas/Nev, etc….
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WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 10:02am
WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 10:02am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
I actually think Phoenix might be okay. Haven't looked at it closely. That chip factory is a mega mother fucker just north of Phoenix proper west of I-17.
Utah is a conundrum. As with any city people will move out of SLC, but when I've been it doesn't really have a big city vibe. There's not homelessness that I saw at least. Clean as a city I've been to.
Vegas will always be a boom and bust city. Forever. Seattle proper I think will have out migration or loss of tech jobs. It has it's beauty but it's ghetto AF. Millennials having kids would be fucking idiots to stay there if work allows them to work from home.
Housing is demographics at this point. Millennials will drive where the housing goes. I don't think it will be urban. They're social, but generally not partiers. They like community. They want their ego stroked. Walking into a Chicago bar no one knows you. Walk into my town bar after 9 years of living here and it takes me an hour to get out of the place. Millennials like that attention. I'm an introvert sober so I don't fit the mold, but that has been my observation.
WookieMan says
And housing is the least of your worries outside of CA, ID, TX and TN. Hell even MT.
Phoenix/AZ, SLC/Provo/UT, Seattle/WA, Las Vegas/Nev, etc….
I actually think Phoenix might be okay. Haven't looked at it closely. That chip factory is a mega mother fucker just north of Phoenix proper west of I-17.
Utah is a conundrum. As with any city people will move out of SLC, but when I've been it doesn't really have a big city vibe. There's not homelessness that I saw at least. Clean as a city I've been to.
Vegas will always be a boom and bust city. Forever. Seattle proper I think will have out migration or loss of tech jobs. It has it's beauty but it's ghetto AF. Millennials having kids would be fucking idiots to stay there if work allows them to work from home.
Housing is demographics at this point. Millennials will drive where the housing goes. I don't think it will be urban. They're social, but generally not partiers. They like community. They want their ego stroked. Walking into a Chicago bar no one knows you. Walk into my town bar after 9 years of living here and it takes me an hour to get out of the place. Millennials like that attention. I'm an introvert sober so I don't fit the mold, but that has been my observation.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Feb 22, 11:18am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Feb 22, 11:18am
The sooner everyone realizes it's not Zelinski's money, and Ukraine is just a Proxy diversion to embezzle money from the tax payers around the world, mostly the USA.
The sooner everyone will realize that the crooks are trying to use WWIII to cover up their crime. WWIII is the getaway car.
Be careful what you folks wish for. Because with Biden, you aint gittin SHIT, but hairy legs, rusty razor blades, and a ten percent cut paid to the big guy.
The sooner everyone will realize that the crooks are trying to use WWIII to cover up their crime. WWIII is the getaway car.
Be careful what you folks wish for. Because with Biden, you aint gittin SHIT, but hairy legs, rusty razor blades, and a ten percent cut paid to the big guy.
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Eric Holder
2023 Feb 22, 11:31am
Eric Holder
2023 Feb 22, 11:31am
Forget Ukraine - being on the receiving end of an invasion from a (former) superpower is no picknick, duh.
The question is: what has CCCP won by starting this covfefe? I can't think of a single improvement vs their pre-war position. Image of the "2nd military in the world"? - lost. European energy market? - lost. Hundreds of billions in assets and revenues - lost and lost. Thousands of armored vehicles, tens of thousands of soldiers,100+ aircraft - lost, lost, lost. Several battleships, including Black Sea flagship - lost. Various industries like car manufacturing - lost. And all for what - a narrow slice of completely demolished Ukranian territory? And even if they could somehow hold to it via Korea-type armistice - what's there? Anyone knows what's so special about Bahmut so getting hold of it is worth losing all listed above and becoming China's bitch in the process?
The question is: what has CCCP won by starting this covfefe? I can't think of a single improvement vs their pre-war position. Image of the "2nd military in the world"? - lost. European energy market? - lost. Hundreds of billions in assets and revenues - lost and lost. Thousands of armored vehicles, tens of thousands of soldiers,100+ aircraft - lost, lost, lost. Several battleships, including Black Sea flagship - lost. Various industries like car manufacturing - lost. And all for what - a narrow slice of completely demolished Ukranian territory? And even if they could somehow hold to it via Korea-type armistice - what's there? Anyone knows what's so special about Bahmut so getting hold of it is worth losing all listed above and becoming China's bitch in the process?
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HeadSet
2023 Feb 22, 11:51am
HeadSet
2023 Feb 22, 11:51am
Eric Holder says
Compared to what they would lose if they did not annex Crimea and put a favorable government in Kiev - NATO naval bases at Sevastopol and Odessa. The Russians consider this an existential threat, especially after seeing former Warsaw Pact countries and even ex-Soviet Republics join NATO.
The question is: what has CCCP won by starting this covfefe?
Compared to what they would lose if they did not annex Crimea and put a favorable government in Kiev - NATO naval bases at Sevastopol and Odessa. The Russians consider this an existential threat, especially after seeing former Warsaw Pact countries and even ex-Soviet Republics join NATO.
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WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 7:05pm
WookieMan
2023 Feb 22, 7:05pm
Eric Holder says
They're drunk. I don't make that comment as a joke. Russian and Ukrainians are massive drunks. Rarely does anyone actually win in a bar fight. Russia only wins if they use nukes.
There's no point in attacking Europe or the US with a nuke. They'll probably just get a truck in and detonate it in Ukraine and claim it wasn't them. I'd be highly suspect that their ICBM's are accurate or functional as well. We you run a 40 mile caravan into the a country with people sitting in the bushes, all it takes is knocking out 10 vehicles at the front and everyone is stuck and supply lines are destroyed. That's retardation at its peak.
I'd get the fuck out of Russia or Ukraine pronto either way. This doesn't end well for either side.
Anyone knows what's so special about Bahmut so getting hold of it is worth losing all listed above and becoming China's bitch in the process?
They're drunk. I don't make that comment as a joke. Russian and Ukrainians are massive drunks. Rarely does anyone actually win in a bar fight. Russia only wins if they use nukes.
There's no point in attacking Europe or the US with a nuke. They'll probably just get a truck in and detonate it in Ukraine and claim it wasn't them. I'd be highly suspect that their ICBM's are accurate or functional as well. We you run a 40 mile caravan into the a country with people sitting in the bushes, all it takes is knocking out 10 vehicles at the front and everyone is stuck and supply lines are destroyed. That's retardation at its peak.
I'd get the fuck out of Russia or Ukraine pronto either way. This doesn't end well for either side.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Feb 22, 9:49pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Feb 22, 9:49pm
Ukraine has been fucked for nearly a decade now. Russia for 200 years. This is old news. If we don't fucking stop, what this OP should say is the US and Europe will be totally fucked.
There are no winners in war, even in the rare cases when it is justified.
There are no winners in war, even in the rare cases when it is justified.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2023 Feb 22, 9:59pm
PanicanDemoralizer
2023 Feb 22, 9:59pm
WookieMan says
Same in South Florida - BOTH Russians and Ukrainians. All know each other, many in real estate, etc.
There is no dislike between Ukrainians and Russians, whatever the Media and Politicians try to imply. Some anti-Russian Greek Catholics in the far West around Lvov.
There is more intermarriage and cross border personal relationships between Ukies and Ruskies than there is between Canuckistanis and Murricans, after all, the former were one country a little over 30 years ago and were together both under the Tsars and the USSR. The last time there was a viable Ukrainian state before now was before the Mongol Hordes.
I literally worked with a Ukrainian Oligarch lackey in Chicago, but he was the Chicago "boss" of the neighborhood. They laundered money through real estate.
Same in South Florida - BOTH Russians and Ukrainians. All know each other, many in real estate, etc.
There is no dislike between Ukrainians and Russians, whatever the Media and Politicians try to imply. Some anti-Russian Greek Catholics in the far West around Lvov.
There is more intermarriage and cross border personal relationships between Ukies and Ruskies than there is between Canuckistanis and Murricans, after all, the former were one country a little over 30 years ago and were together both under the Tsars and the USSR. The last time there was a viable Ukrainian state before now was before the Mongol Hordes.
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AD
2023 Feb 22, 10:05pm
AD
2023 Feb 22, 10:05pm
gabbar says
Yeah, one major player in this is Victoria Nuland, and she has her fingerprints over manipulating Ukraine going back at least to 2013.
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US taxpayers shouldn't be funding personal Jewish wars
Yeah, one major player in this is Victoria Nuland, and she has her fingerprints over manipulating Ukraine going back at least to 2013.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2023 Feb 22, 10:21pm
PanicanDemoralizer
2023 Feb 22, 10:21pm
gabbar says
Israelis maintain decent relations with Russia. Almost half of all Israelis don't want to sell Iron Dome or anything Defensive to Ukraine.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-19/ty-article/.premium/41-percent-of-israelis-oppose-arming-ukraine-in-war-against-russia/00000183-efe9-dddc-a1eb-ffe927360000
This is about the DNC having a money laundering center, and RINOs in the Defense Industry replacing lost Afghanistan Munitions expenditures with a new source of demand.
Behind all neocons are GE, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon. Look at any org still or that was Neocon, all big MIC companies and/or their front groups. All of the top 10 Think Tanks are loaded up with MIC Money.
Israel is useful for the MIC because they make Congress give Israel the $4B annual gift certificate of which 95% comes right back to them, and use it strategically - like stopping telling the Israelis the only aircraft they could buy was the F-35 HangarQueen MaximizeCostPlus II as an attempt to get some other country to use it.
We will spend more than Russia's Annual GDP for a single-seat, single engine missile platform less agile than the last generation of fighters, that only a lot of armtwisting and bribery can generate orders for. The Navy and Australia and Royal Navy and others would rather have the updated version of a 1980s aircraft, the F/A-18 Hornet, than the F-35. That updated airframe being itself almost 30 years old. Sheesh.
Tangent, sorry.
US taxpayers shouldn't be funding personal Jewish wars
Israelis maintain decent relations with Russia. Almost half of all Israelis don't want to sell Iron Dome or anything Defensive to Ukraine.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-19/ty-article/.premium/41-percent-of-israelis-oppose-arming-ukraine-in-war-against-russia/00000183-efe9-dddc-a1eb-ffe927360000
This is about the DNC having a money laundering center, and RINOs in the Defense Industry replacing lost Afghanistan Munitions expenditures with a new source of demand.
Behind all neocons are GE, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon. Look at any org still or that was Neocon, all big MIC companies and/or their front groups. All of the top 10 Think Tanks are loaded up with MIC Money.
Israel is useful for the MIC because they make Congress give Israel the $4B annual gift certificate of which 95% comes right back to them, and use it strategically - like stopping telling the Israelis the only aircraft they could buy was the F-35 HangarQueen MaximizeCostPlus II as an attempt to get some other country to use it.
We will spend more than Russia's Annual GDP for a single-seat, single engine missile platform less agile than the last generation of fighters, that only a lot of armtwisting and bribery can generate orders for. The Navy and Australia and Royal Navy and others would rather have the updated version of a 1980s aircraft, the F/A-18 Hornet, than the F-35. That updated airframe being itself almost 30 years old. Sheesh.
Tangent, sorry.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2024 Nov 17, 6:45am
PanicanDemoralizer
2024 Nov 17, 6:45am
It sure does, because the US public will is against paying for the entire country, and the EU sure doesn't want to
At this point it should be all German and French loans to buy US equipment and we get paid to ship it, too.
At this point it should be all German and French loans to buy US equipment and we get paid to ship it, too.
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HeadSet
2025 Jan 22, 12:11pm
HeadSet
2025 Jan 22, 12:11pm
I wonder if that audit of past Ukraine funds will implicate the Bidens, et al. Maybe this is the real reason for the blanket pardons.
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WookieMan
2025 Jan 22, 2:30pm
WookieMan
2025 Jan 22, 2:30pm
HeadSet says
Can you pardon treason? Methinks no? I could be wrong. Either way states can charge them on a bunch of things I'm sure.
Biden tried to ensnare Trump in something and lost every step of the way. Trump also can't stop state government from going after Biden(s). Not sure about Hunter but Joe would get tossed in a white collar prison where he doesn't interact with other inmates. Or he might just kill himself in the coming weeks or some other insider offs him and Hunter to keep them quiet. Jill would be a hard one, but everyone needs to be eliminated if shady stuff went down.
I wonder if that audit of past Ukraine funds will implicate the Bidens, et al. Maybe this is the real reason for the blanket pardons.
Can you pardon treason? Methinks no? I could be wrong. Either way states can charge them on a bunch of things I'm sure.
Biden tried to ensnare Trump in something and lost every step of the way. Trump also can't stop state government from going after Biden(s). Not sure about Hunter but Joe would get tossed in a white collar prison where he doesn't interact with other inmates. Or he might just kill himself in the coming weeks or some other insider offs him and Hunter to keep them quiet. Jill would be a hard one, but everyone needs to be eliminated if shady stuff went down.
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PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jan 22, 5:51pm
PanicanDemoralizer
2025 Jan 22, 5:51pm
HeadSet says
I do notice most of Biden's "Family and Friends" pardons go to exactly 2014, the year Hunter became a Burisma Board Member.
I wonder if that audit of past Ukraine funds will implicate the Bidens, et al. Maybe this is the real reason for the blanket pardons.
I do notice most of Biden's "Family and Friends" pardons go to exactly 2014, the year Hunter became a Burisma Board Member.
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RWSGFY
2025 Jan 26, 12:00am
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1882937260724699606
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1883168266820194755
TRUMP AND JOOS ARE PROVOKING OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER INTO FINALLY LAUNCHING THESE DEADLY THERMONUKELAR NUKES FROM THAT NUCLEAR TRAIN WHICH HAS LEFT THE STATION TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO!!!!!
RWSGFY
2025 Jan 26, 12:00am
Since Sunday, several C-17 Military Transports with the U.S. Air Force have flown from Ramstein Air Base in Germany, to Hatzerim Airbase in Southern Israel, before then flying to Rzeszów in Eastern Poland, which serves as the Hub for almost all Military Aid provided by the U.S. and NATO to Ukraine. Reports previously had suggested that Israel was considering donating Soviet Weapons and Equipment, captured recently in both Lebanon and Syria, to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, including Tanks, Anti-Tank Guided-Missiles, and Ammunition; this is in addition to several “Patriot” Surface-to-Air Missile Batteries that the Israeli Air Force was preparing to Retire, which they had also considered giving to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1882937260724699606
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1883168266820194755
TRUMP AND JOOS ARE PROVOKING OUR GREAT CHRISTIAN LEADER INTO FINALLY LAUNCHING THESE DEADLY THERMONUKELAR NUKES FROM THAT NUCLEAR TRAIN WHICH HAS LEFT THE STATION TWO AND HALF YEARS AGO!!!!!
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Eric Holder
2025 Feb 3, 4:13pm
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-arms-shipments-kyiv-briefly-paused-before-resuming-over-weekend-sources-say-2025-02-03/
I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED THAT TRUMP IS NOT REALLY PUKIN'S BITCH AS DEMON RATS TOLD US!
Eric Holder
2025 Feb 3, 4:13pm
Feb 3 (Reuters) - U.S. shipments of weapons into Ukraine were briefly paused in recent days before resuming over the weekend as the Trump administration debated its policy towards Kyiv, according to four people briefed on the matter.
Shipments restarted after the White House pulled back on its initial assessment to stop all aid to Ukraine, two of the sources said.
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The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-arms-shipments-kyiv-briefly-paused-before-resuming-over-weekend-sources-say-2025-02-03/
I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED THAT TRUMP IS NOT REALLY PUKIN'S BITCH AS DEMON RATS TOLD US!
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Ceffer
2025 Feb 3, 4:27pm
Ceffer
2025 Feb 3, 4:27pm
Flaming bag of dog poo Zelensky will eventually turn State's evidence on the biolabs and money laundering because, well, he's a criminal flaming bag of dog poo and it might keep him alive when the extortion and blackmails have dried up.
https://t.me/followsthewhiterabbit/105338
https://t.me/followsthewhiterabbit/105338
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WookieMan
2025 Feb 6, 3:42pm
WookieMan
2025 Feb 6, 3:42pm
Again just post it once. A quote is no different. The images are getting ridiculous. Can anyone have an intelligent comment anymore?
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 6, 4:31pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 6, 4:31pm
WookieMan says
WookieMan says
WookieMan says
WookieMan says
Again just post it once. A quote is no different. The images are getting ridiculous. Can anyone have an intelligent comment anymore?
WookieMan says
Again just post it once. A quote is no different. The images are getting ridiculous. Can anyone have an intelligent comment anymore?
WookieMan says
Again just post it once. A quote is no different. The images are getting ridiculous. Can anyone have an intelligent comment anymore?
WookieMan says
Again just post it once. A quote is no different. The images are getting ridiculous. Can anyone have an intelligent comment anymore?
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Fortwaye
2025 Feb 7, 7:25pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit says
there are no NK soldiers there. that’s uniparty propaganda.
I actually believe this one:
there are no NK soldiers there. that’s uniparty propaganda.
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komputodo
2025 Feb 8, 7:25am
komputodo
2025 Feb 8, 7:25am
As far as the ukraine is concerned, the only thing I care about is the free money and arms they get from the usa...If that stops, it's all good whatever happens...Once the usa stops, then europe stops, then maybe the ukies will hang zelenzky like mussolini.
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komputodo
2025 Feb 8, 7:29am
komputodo
2025 Feb 8, 7:29am
Eric Holder says
would you be shocked if reuters was funded by usaid?
I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED THAT TRUMP IS NOT REALLY PUKIN'S BITCH AS DEMON RATS TOLD US!
would you be shocked if reuters was funded by usaid?
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 8, 10:39am
MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 8, 10:39am
AD says
Why in the hell would Russia want to 'deal' at all?
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Trump wants to make a deal with Ukraine , this is in today's NY Post
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Why in the hell would Russia want to 'deal' at all?
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 12, 9:45am
MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 12, 9:45am
#UkraineIsFucked
#UkeyNaziFluffersOfPatNet
"...it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."
- Henry Kissinger
#UkeyNaziFluffersOfPatNet
"...it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."
- Henry Kissinger
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WookieMan
2025 Feb 12, 10:00am
WookieMan
2025 Feb 12, 10:00am
OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says
Why not is the bigger question. They got what they wanted. No different than China or the US, we all know the reports are bull shit on war casualties. Russia can hide the number of deaths as long as they want, but if people are not coming back from the war front citizen will start getting pissed.
You can only war so long before you get tossed from office as parents lose their sons and family members. Last thing either government wants is a revolution. Ukraine is fucked either way. Russia could be fucked and they're do for if you look at history. They have too many resources and have gained the land they want. They're screwing their demographics in the future in about 20 years.
Enjoy the gains now and realize the shit hits the fan when you have no kids and men. 1 man that dies reduces the male population by over 50%, technically higher. There's an incentive to stop the war on both side as neither will exist in 20 years if they keep this up. Who is gonna work? 60-70 year olds?
Why in the hell would Russia want to 'deal' at all?
Why not is the bigger question. They got what they wanted. No different than China or the US, we all know the reports are bull shit on war casualties. Russia can hide the number of deaths as long as they want, but if people are not coming back from the war front citizen will start getting pissed.
You can only war so long before you get tossed from office as parents lose their sons and family members. Last thing either government wants is a revolution. Ukraine is fucked either way. Russia could be fucked and they're do for if you look at history. They have too many resources and have gained the land they want. They're screwing their demographics in the future in about 20 years.
Enjoy the gains now and realize the shit hits the fan when you have no kids and men. 1 man that dies reduces the male population by over 50%, technically higher. There's an incentive to stop the war on both side as neither will exist in 20 years if they keep this up. Who is gonna work? 60-70 year olds?
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rocketjoe79
2025 Feb 12, 1:29pm
rocketjoe79
2025 Feb 12, 1:29pm
Quote: "Who is gonna work? 60-70 year olds?"
Immigrants! They will do the work regular Russians simply don't do!
Immigrants! They will do the work regular Russians simply don't do!
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 28, 4:32pm
https://x.com/simonateba/status/1895620207214817780
MolotovCocktail
2025 Feb 28, 4:32pm
Who are the real losers of today’s Oval Office meeting between Trump and Zelensky?
First, the whole thing is a scam. Many people do not know that 95 to 98 percent of the foreign assistance money for Ukraine never left the United States. The money went to Pentagon contractors and the military-industrial complex—the same people who always profit from wars.
To deceive the American people, Jake Sullivan, then National Security Advisor, repeatedly came to the White House to explain that the money was actually going to Pentagon contractors to replenish America’s stockpile. In other words, they were sending old planes, old tanks, old weapons, and ammunition to Ukraine while replenishing what the U.S. no longer needed—as if they required a war to justify restocking.
To create the illusion that most of the money was going to Ukraine, they set aside a few billion dollars for humanitarian aid, but the bulk of the funds were for weapons—manufacturing them, shipping them, training Ukrainians to use them, and paying intelligence personnel to share information. Even the so-called humanitarian assistance was largely used to sustain soldiers so they could continue fighting.
Every war is a scam.
When President Trump says “Obama sent you blankets, and I sent you Javelins,” it all benefits the same military-industrial complex because Ukraine does not manufacture these weapons—they are made in the U.S., and the money stays here.
The real winners? Defense contractors and lobbyists.
The real losers? Ukraine, Europe, and possibly even the American people.
Ukraine’s Fate Without U.S. Support
Without continued U.S. assistance, Ukraine may not sustain the war for long. European nations may feel compelled to intervene, fearing Putin won’t stop at Ukraine.
So far, the U.S. has spent nearly $120 billion on Ukraine assistance, yet virtually all of it remained in the U.S. Europe has contributed even more, yet the situation remains unchanged.
Trump often claims Ukraine aid has exceeded $350 billion—false. Even if the total reached $1 trillion, $950 billion of it would still be spent within the U.S. Without further funding, Russia will easily defeat Ukraine.
The Military-Industrial Complex Stands to Lose Billions
If the war ends, defense contractors will lose the billions they’ve made on the blood of Ukrainian soldiers. A Russian victory could also embolden Moscow to go beyond Ukraine, putting Europe at risk.
But is Trump the winner?
I don’t know.
Are the American people winners?
I don’t know.
If Ukraine aid ceases, funds will still flow to the same Pentagon contractors—under a different justification. Trump says he wants to rebuild the military, fund the Iron Dome, and strengthen defense systems. The money still goes to the same players.
And if that’s not enough, a new war or terror attack could conveniently emerge, triggering another war on terror. Who gets the money? The same contractors.
The Real Threat Isn’t Zelenskyy or Putin—It’s the Pentagon Contractors
The most dangerous people aren’t in Kyiv or Moscow. They’re here in the U.S.—running defense companies, securing contracts, and ensuring wars never truly end.
For Trump, lengthy Oval Office meetings with cameras rolling may offer transparency, but too much exposure can backfire. Holding multiple press events daily may fatigue the public, leading to disinterest over time.
The biggest lesson from today’s meeting?
The war economy is alive and well—and no matter who wins, the military-industrial complex always gets paid.
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OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says
The best source I've found is the USA has made "available" $183 billion to Ukraine since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And in addition to the $183 billion, the USA has provided $20 billion in loans to Ukraine.
The website is run by the USA inspector general overseeing Ukraine financial aid.
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
Would have to read the above website to see how it accounts for the $183 billion.
I agree as the USA could show as an expense "surplus or old inventory from the Pentagon" transferred to the Ukraine military. So I don't know how much of the $183 billion is "Pentagon surplus".
Yeah, Lockheed Martin stock went from around $330 in December 2021 (leading up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine) to $619 in October 2024.
It dropped right after the November 2024 election.
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the U.S. has spent nearly $120 billion on Ukraine assistance
The best source I've found is the USA has made "available" $183 billion to Ukraine since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And in addition to the $183 billion, the USA has provided $20 billion in loans to Ukraine.
The website is run by the USA inspector general overseeing Ukraine financial aid.
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
Would have to read the above website to see how it accounts for the $183 billion.
I agree as the USA could show as an expense "surplus or old inventory from the Pentagon" transferred to the Ukraine military. So I don't know how much of the $183 billion is "Pentagon surplus".
Yeah, Lockheed Martin stock went from around $330 in December 2021 (leading up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine) to $619 in October 2024.
It dropped right after the November 2024 election.
.
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Ukraine's government is 99% financed by US money. That makes it a US satrapy. It is financed with some of the money we have been lied to is for Ukraine's 'war effort'.
Money Zelensky & Crooks rip off.
But now DeSantis has drawn the line in the sand. That makes it a MAGA/GOP base election issue.
McConnel.will be pissed. As will the Nazi Ukey Fluffers.